yup - no surprise there.... We'll see.

NATO is going to stick it up our ass. Every country is going it's own way, some of which are going exactly the wrong way by pissing off the locals. Where's Ike when we need him.

Doesn't make any difference, we could kiss their ass and give them the world, but without the US as the enemy they can't justify cracking down on their people. Israel alone is not a big enough boogieman without the US.

I'm sorry, but I don't see their reluctance to trust us as inappropriate or questionable behavior.

Who said it was inappropriate or questionable? We've stated what it is, and that it was predictable.

Uh huh, then why make a whole thread about it. All Iran is saying is that they wont trust us on our word, they are going to react according to our actions. Sounds fairly reasonable to me.

They also specified what those actions must be, which is apologize and make reparations for every slight, real and imagined, ever. They only supplied a partial list though, they'll make up the rest as they go along.

Oh yes, one is we mustn't stand in their way of destroying Israel.

Unfortunately, we are knee deep involvedwhen it comes to Israel. Isnt it then unsurprising that Iran would consider us untrustworthy? Playing the game means understanding that and thus understanding Irans reaction. Time will tell whether Iran will sees playing with us means anything concrete to them. Will we actually ever make it so for them? Is it even really worth it for us to do so (considering the fact that Russia is willing) What do we really have to offer them?

And that is the public statement. Get away from the extremists who know Iran is always evil. Then appreciate what is really happening.

Privately, Turkey's president Abdullah Gul is talking to Iran about a new American attitude. Of course Iran will say the same things publically. Only relevant are what they are saying privately.

Turkey, once one of America's top 10 allies, has lost it respect for America. That despite wanting an America it can admire and support. That too will change when Obama makes a visit to Turkey without the prerequisite visit to Greece. Numerous little facts imply something is afoot. If true, our local extremists will either ignore or bad mouth it.

There never was an axis of evil no matter how often extremists declare it. Restored relations with Iran are a remote possibility. If it does happen, wacko extremist (ie Limbaugh) will be all hyped up in a tizzy.

Only the Shia part. As I stated about 6 years ago, split it up into three parts.

Its been reported for over a week. No surprise - not private at all. Rather common knowledge for one who wants to seek information and the truth instead of promote an agenda.

Public statements are to keep the extermists in line. But since you are so better informed (extremists always know more), then tell us what Turkey said to Iran and what Iran said to Turkey. Their discussions are in private. Since you know so much of those private discussions, then tell us what nobody else can report. Or are you again replying only to argue more Rush Limbaugh rhetoric?

Your post provides nothing useful or informative. Since it has been reported for over week, then you obviously know what was said? classicman has no idea what Turkey, Iran, Clinton, and others have said. He posted only to argue. What - 40 or 50 some posts every day?

So, why is Obama blamed for this? Wacko extremist politics are alive and well.

Your writing style implied that it was some private information you were relaying, I corrected that.
But on that subject, What discussions that any representatives have are public? Discussions of this nature are always done in a private forum.

And you are towing that line well. If this info was on Limbaugh, I certainly wouldn't know as I have repeatedly said, I don't listen to him. Apparently tw listens to Rush Limbaugh. tw knows all about what Rush thinks & says. Move on please. Your petty BS is getting quite tiresome - AGAIN.

Great. Now we are the world's security force. *heavy sigh*

I think Pakistan is more of a problem, actually.

Yes, and the person who might have actually gotten the government to take a more realistic view resigned from consideration last week. *sigh*

"Charles Freeman, a man with a long and distinguished career in the U.S. Foreign Service, withdrew his name from consideration to be the chairman of the National Intelligence Council, a key intelligence job. In doing so, he blamed -- and I quote here -- "the Israeli lobby," for his decision to pull his own nomination.

He accused the so-called Israel lobby of "character assassination," of "willful distortion of the record," and an "utter disregard of the truth." Strong charges."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../fzgps.01.html

Certain proZionist organizations are notorious for this kind of behavior, assassinate the character of anyone who questions their motives. It really pisses me off. grrrr