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classicman 01-05-2009 03:03 PM

Good point Blue - who needs democracy anyway.:eyebrow:

bluecuracao 01-05-2009 04:04 PM

You mean a republic, right?

TheMercenary 01-05-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 519267)
You mean a republic, right?

Stop clouding the facts.

bluecuracao 01-05-2009 04:45 PM

Oh please, classic's the one being all vague. I'm just trying to help him clarify his...whatever he's doing.

TheMercenary 01-05-2009 04:50 PM

I understand him. I see no vagueness.

classicman 01-05-2009 07:33 PM

Pelosi's plan eliminates debate on an issue - that isn't a democracy thats a virtual dictatorship.

DanaC 01-05-2009 07:42 PM

I know it's wrong of me, but I read the last part of that sentence to the tune of Virtual Insanity (Jamiriquoi -sp?)

morethanpretty 01-05-2009 07:45 PM

Here's a fact ya'll need to get straight. We are democratic republic. Meaning we vote in people who are supposed to represent US. We are NOT directly democratic. Pelosi is meant to represent those who voted her in. The majority of voters want changes to go through, they want a the Democratic agenda to succeed. If that means repressing the Republican agenda, than thats what is needed. I don't think its right that the party that is clearly not the favored of this country can keep the party that has been chosen by a popular vote from fulfilling the wishes of the majority, of the people. I think all parties need to work harder to represent the people, not just their own party agendas, not just those who voted for them. We are not a bi-partisan country, only our government is. That is not representative and the democractic process is severly hindered by big bucks and big business.

jinx 01-05-2009 07:51 PM

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I don't think its right that the party that is clearly not the favored of this country can keep the party that has been chosen by a popular vote from fulfilling the wishes of the majority, of the people.
So, you think it's right that homosexuals are banned from marriage in CA, since that is clearly what the majority in that state wish?

TheMercenary 01-05-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 519348)
Here's a fact ya'll need to get straight. We are democratic republic. Meaning we vote in people who are supposed to represent US. We are NOT directly democratic. Pelosi is meant to represent those who voted her in. The majority of voters want changes to go through, they want a the Democratic agenda to succeed. If that means repressing the Republican agenda, than thats what is needed. I don't think its right that the party that is clearly not the favored of this country can keep the party that has been chosen by a popular vote from fulfilling the wishes of the majority, of the people. I think all parties need to work harder to represent the people, not just their own party agendas, not just those who voted for them. We are not a bi-partisan country, only our government is. That is not representative and the democractic process is severly hindered by big bucks and big business.

Fail.

classicman 01-05-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 519350)
So, you think it's right that homosexuals are banned from marriage in CA, since that is clearly what the majority in that state wish?

At what point did I say ANYTHING about that?

morethanpretty 01-05-2009 08:18 PM

No because the ban is a violation of the constitution. All citizens' right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It violates seperation of church and state. It also violates right to privacy. The ban should be thrown out for its violation of the constitution, unless they can amend the constitution to get rid of all that. One reason why we have a representative government rather than a directly democratic government is because the majority will completely bully the minorities otherwise.
Thats why I stated our government needs to do a better job of representing ALL of us. Also why are gov is set up with a Supreme Court, if a law made by congress is unconstitutional, it can be fought by the people. Of course everyone's opinion of unconstitutional and freedom differ, their will always be hairs to split. Not every one is gonna be happy.

morethanpretty 01-05-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 519356)
Fail.

Oh yeah a one word post that is not in anyway backed up by truth, or even your opinion. You are obviously right. [/sarcasm]

jinx 01-05-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 519366)
At what point did I say ANYTHING about that?

Are you high? :eyebrow:

classicman 01-05-2009 08:29 PM

What thread are you in?


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