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jimhelm 10-30-2011 08:36 PM

This is jimhelm reporting live from Lincoln Financial Field.

Holy shit, batman. It's shaping up to be a blow out. Dallas can't do anything right. The ball is bouncin the eagles' way. It will take one hell of an effort to dig out of this hole.

wolf 10-30-2011 08:42 PM

Be careful dear. You don't want to be beat up by any Eagles fans, do you?

jimhelm 10-30-2011 09:00 PM

Wearing my Tony Homo jerzy.... Taking a lot of shit. Grin and bear it.

Would be more likely to have issues if dallas was winning.

classicman 10-30-2011 10:40 PM

Seems like the "dream team" showed up for a game - finally.
Dallas couldn't seem to get anything right.
With the Giants win (5-2) everyone else is at 3-4.
Makes things more interesting anyway.

W.HI.P 12-08-2011 12:07 AM

Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants

The Cowboys can pretty much secure 1st place in the division, with a win over the Giants on Sunday night football.

If the Giants lose, it'll be their 5th straight loss.
Don't blame Eli Manning, it's not his fault.
He's been brilliant at times.
It's the Defense
(Ranked 28th in the NFL in points allowed)
(Ranked 29th in the NFL in Yards allowed per game)

The Cowboys ?
Well, their attack is well above par, and so is their defense for that matter
(Ranked #3 in the NFC in points allowed)
(Ranked #2 in the NFL in sacks)

The Dallas Cowboys should win this one at home pretty easily.

J.D.DIAMOND 12-09-2011 05:11 PM

Hey W.HI.P do you think there is any chance of the Coyboys getting past the Packers in the playoffs at Green Bay?

Is there any team that will beat Green Bay this season,I'm afraid they will be the 2nd team in NFL history to go undefeated 19 - 0.

Its just hard to imagine the damn Packers losing a game this year but I'd love to see dallas knock them off.

classicman 12-09-2011 05:29 PM

They almost lost their last game. Best chance for a loss was probably at the Bears, but since they lost Forte, they'll probably go at least 16-0. Ya never know in the playoffs though...

W.HI.P 12-09-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 779151)
Hey W.HI.P do you think there is any chance of the Coyboys getting past the Packers in the playoffs at Green Bay?

Is there any team that will beat Green Bay this season,I'm afraid they will be the 2nd team in NFL history to go undefeated 19 - 0.

Its just hard to imagine the damn Packers losing a game this year but I'd love to see dallas knock them off.

The Indianapolis Colts have as much of a chance of winning the Superbowl as the Green Bay Packers do this season.
Since the Colts have already been mathematically eliminated, one would find that comment absurd.
However, it is a fact.
The NFL is run entirely by gambling money.
It is for this reason, that the Packers have a 0% chance of winning the Superbowl this season.
Very much like the Patriots a few seasons back up against the Giants.
They would have had to dish out 18 billion dollars on the game alone.
That's a 36 Billion dollar differential.....not counting all the long term bets.
So you see? ...they're not running the NFl to lose money.
They must make a profit, and it is the gambling that provides the profit.
It is the perception of the masses that place the money that guarantee those profits.
The Packers are the guarantee. That is why they have as much chance of winning this years Superbowl as the Colts do this season.
So yes, of course the Packers are gonna lose.

jimhelm 12-10-2011 11:08 AM

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W.HI.P 12-10-2011 12:40 PM

@jimhelm

Over 200 billion dollars are gambled on the NFL annually.
As i said, the sports is entirely run by gambling money.
I have demonstrated in the cellar how this occurs in real time.
I can still see you in a decade from now, still calling it a coincidence, how the masses keep losing.

The last pre-season favorite to win a Superbowl was the 1985 Chicago Bears... what is that? 26 years of the masses losing their money?
Yeah, you're right, its probably just a coincidence.
Hundreds of billions couldn't corrupt a bunch of grown men playing with a ball now could it?

W.HI.P 12-10-2011 12:52 PM

@JimHelm

I wager between $50.000 to $75.000 on long term bets on the NFL each season.
I wager between $2.000 to $4.000 a week during the 17 weeks of the NFL regular season.
In the play-offs, pending on what my long term bets are doing, I wager another $50.000 to $100.000.
I'm not considered a high roller.
There are guys rolling an extra digit or two.

If you honestly believe that this money doesn't come into play, than you're in toot toot land.

Undertoad 12-10-2011 01:42 PM

But you haven't connected the collections made in Vegas and overseas sports betting to actual events, and every single game is bet on both sides.

To me, it's much more likely that a line is set based on people's expectations, not that a GAME is fixed on that basis.

To fix the outcome in a sport with 90 players, 10 coaches, 60,000 people watching in person and 5 million watching remotely where random events affect almost every play... highly unlikely, and people will be trying to affect the outcome on both sides.

W.HI.P 12-10-2011 02:24 PM

@UT

The money Vegas collects is not worthy of mentioning.
Landbrokes takes the majority of these bets, as they own, or co-own most collectors.
This is a web linked to royalty.
Looking further into it, you'll find major media outlets in the same web, including the NFL network.
Forget the ball players, its all controlled through the top of the franchise's.
The NFL is in the negative and would not exist without the gambling money.

...and yes, it is the expectation that guides the weekly spreads.... not quite so in Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games, or in the play-offs.
These are the key games to the profits and the majority of them are predetermined.
If they weren't, I probably wouldn't be making the money that I do.
For its is these predetermined games that i build my base for each week, based on opposing the expectations of the masses which are rarely met.
When it comes to the Packers winning the Superbowl, well, the web collecting those billions of dollars, simply can't afford the Green Bay Packers winning the Superbowl, and therefore they won't.

Undertoad 12-10-2011 02:37 PM

Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much

W.HI.P 12-10-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 779320)
Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much

Well sure it does.
I bet against the masses... i bet on the house winning.
The masses lose, the house wins, there is no coincidence.


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