I just don't get how the gambling money funds the league. Seems like there would be some kind of paper trail if that were true.

One of us is definitely in toot toot land. when 2 people are on an elevator, and one of them farts... they both know who did it.

and if it was just who wins what games... like the packers winning the super bowl, why would there be a point spread.

your argument is invalid

Just so you all get a better picture of the facts, I'll give them to you.
The 3 preseason favorites and the result

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2006-2007
1)Pittsburgh Steelers
2)Denver Broncos
3)Dallas Cowboys

The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2007-2008
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Chicago Bears

The New York Giants won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2008-2009
1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)San Diego Chargers

The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2009-2010
1)New England Patriots
2)Pittsburgh Steelers
3)New York giants

The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2010-2011
1)New Orleans Saints
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Baltimore Ravens

The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

2011 -2012
1)Green Bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)Philadelphia Eagles

The ____________ Won the Superbowl

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

This pattern goes all the way back to 1985.

If you could go back in time, all you'd really have to do every year, is exclude the top 3 favorites every season, and you'd have a chance.

But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends.

In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.

Well almost everyone has a head, but approx 50% are no-tails....

So lets get this straight....
The guys collecting the money, are the same guys that run the media that tells everyone what to bet one.
They create the most lop-sided perceptions possible, which results in
humans, sheep-like as they are, betting on whatever they tell them to bet on, and they end up losing their money.

Show me a major event, where loads of money was gambled, where the house lost and the masses won.
It doesn't happen!
It can't always be a coincidence, can it?
How long are you guys gonna keep believing that?

Try betting against the masses in the next major gambling match-up.
I'm trying to help you guys make a little bit of money.
Take it... its free

Or is it like, I'm ruining it for you.
You enjoy watching football, and you want it to be fair, and even if it isn't, you'd rather not know about it.

Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha.

Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.

um go texans?

they're hurt bad. but are conforming to their plight. defense defense defense. wade phillips sucks as a head coach but he sure as hell knows how to run a defense!

back on track though, if betting is your thing shit i'm not stopping you and sure as hell no one else is here either. go bet. have fun! spreads to me are driven by the IR list. not a good example but go watch errr tolerate "the last boy scout"

oh. i almost forgot. FUCK the cowboys.

No bet of mine has a greater return this season than the Houston Texans.
I got them winning their division, making the AFC Final, Winning the AFC Final, and Winning the Suberbowl.
I actually made an error when making the bets on the Texans, which lead to me having more money on them than i had originally planned.
The reason for the bet was their OL and DL.
I only found out the Texans were a 2 headed running machine after the season started.
The Texans have a legitimate chance of going far this year, as their lines are superior, and they completely control the clock.
Their defense is so good, cause their offense allows them to rest.
Not to mention, they can score.
Which team in the AFC can knock them out?
Perhaps the Oakland Raiders should Darren McFadden return 100% by the play-offs.
That's another team i wagered on at high odds.
From the NFC, I've got the Cowboys and the Falcons.
All 4 teams seem to be play-off material.

The only two teams I'm afraid of this season, that I haven't wagered on, are the Baltimore Ravens from the AFC, and the San Fransisco 49ers from the NFC.
Both teams have elite defense's.

We've done this here before, I have no pride... I only wish to share.

The Packers won't win the Superbowl, and yet, no one will really see anything.
They'll then have a mind set that the team that wins the 2011-2012 Superbowl has a chance to repeat in 2012-2013.
Sheep.

I don't think you are an honest person

Everyone assumes the winner will repeat and they rarely do.

Except that it did happen going back to 1985, in 1989, 1993, and 2004.

I don't think you are dishonest WHIP but I know you're dishonest with yourself.

You say bet on the house side, but you don't know which side the house is on. And neither does the house, until they set the lines.

To imagine the NFL is controlled is ridiculous on its face. It's conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theory is the realm of the unwise. We know it's conspiracy theory because we ask you to connect the facts and you fail to do so. Your unconvincing argument "how could it not be?" is the same fodder offered up by people who believe we never landed on the moon. You can't make the connection, so you only offer up more theory.

This is incorrect thinking, and to continue with this attitude and have losing seasons like you have had is foolish.

You will be wiser when you have failed hard and are forced to take a long hard look at your situation, and will come to the conclusion that the outcomes looked like conspiracy but could happen all along without conspiracy.

Favorites don't repeat... so what! It means the league has parity, a high degree of randomness, and winning players that become free agents make it harder to achieve long-term success at the highest level. The public thinks favorites will repeat... so what! This is an instinct you can take advantage of in the lines, but it doesn't prove, in any way, that it's conspiracy.

The Packers, the Patriots, and the Eagles will not win the superbowl, for they are the pre-season favorites.
Next season, the same things gonna happen, and the next, and the next.
At what point will you start disregarding the top 3 favorites and look on to the real contenders...... and make some money doing it.
You are aware that the 3 favorites have a smaller price than everyone else right?
If there was a horse race, and you knew before hand that the top 3 favorites were not gonna win, you'd be making some serious money.
I'm making some serious money, join me.