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xoxoxoBruce 04-28-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 338221)
A fresh new poltical party would be a great thing for America right now but it looks like it won't happen for a while.

How long do you think it would take for the leaders of this new party to sell their soul to the corporate lobby to entrench and enrich themselves?

richlevy 04-29-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 338691)
How long do you think it would take for the leaders of this new party to sell their soul to the corporate lobby to entrench and enrich themselves?

Well, Dems do have the problem that they have to at least pretend to be consumer-, employee-, and environmentally-friendly. The Republicans could keep on repeating their business-friendly small government mantra and gut environmental and work protections without having to defend themselves against charges of influence peddling or outright graft.

Dems are friends of trial lawyers. I will agree that litigation is a bit out of hand in the US. I will also state that more protections are in place because of fear of a lawsuit than fear of a government fine. A corrupt company could save millions with illegal dumping and have to only pay fines in the tens or hundreds of thousands. It's the tens of millions of dollars in lawsuits over the effects of contaminated water, air, and soil that keep them honest.

Bureaucrats don't get paid extra for taking on corporate lawyers and can be influenced by political pressure. Trial lawyers only get paid if they win, cannot be directly influenced by politics, and have their own lobbyists to provide cover.

piercehawkeye45 04-29-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 338691)
How long do you think it would take for the leaders of this new party to sell their soul to the corporate lobby to entrench and enrich themselves?

10 years.

I understand completely that it would turn into the same thing we have now but the new party would be better for other reasons than politics.

Elspode 04-30-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 337247)
Wasn't the one you had on your old house inverted?


Nope. The inverted pent symbology has been ruined by its association with Satanism, and more accurately, with Baphomet, the goat-headed god.

An inverted pent used to simply mean that one was a first-level initiate to witchcraft. When you finished your first degree, you turned it over. When I was a Cub Scout, the first pin they give you is pinned on upside down, and you don't get to turn it over until you do your first good deed. Ergo, Cub Scouting = Satanism.

Logic is fun, huh?

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2007 05:26 PM

You'll have to buy a ton of GS cookies to make amends.

richlevy 05-01-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 339724)
You'll have to buy a ton of GS cookies to make amends.

Just be sure to buy the ones made with real Girl Scouts.;)


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