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xoxoxoBruce 07-26-2007 08:59 PM

Are there still a lot of pureblood Indians in Mexico? More than here in the states?
As you know, Sycamore claims Indian blood, but methinks it was probably a french Canadian Apache dancer.

dar512 07-27-2007 08:52 AM

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But the Indians didn't do that dar512, did they. And look what happened to them. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to get fucked.

Yeah, I had the same thought, B. Analogies seldom hold up under close scrutiny. But it was too funny to pass up.

TheMercenary 07-27-2007 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 368439)
But the Indians didn't do that dar512, did they. And look what happened to them. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to get fucked.

Funny cartoon, but what bruce said is a fact.

xoxoxoBruce 07-27-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 368655)
Yeah, I had the same thought, B. Analogies seldom hold up under close scrutiny. But it was too funny to pass up.

I firmly believe this one holds up to the closest scrutiny. If we do nothing, the country will change is ways I don't like. That makes it very personal for me. You (collective) may be comfortable with that prospect, but I am not... never will be.

busterb 07-27-2007 09:38 PM

10-4

TheMercenary 07-27-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 368864)
I firmly believe this one holds up to the closest scrutiny. If we do nothing, the country will change is ways I don't like. That makes it very personal for me. You (collective) may be comfortable with that prospect, but I am not... never will be.

It will always change. Who is to say that the next group of political appointees are not going to stir things up for you any worse than the last?

elSicomoro 07-28-2007 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 368565)
As you know, Sycamore claims Indian blood, but methinks it was probably a french Canadian Apache dancer.

Well, I do have good rhythm.

My great grandfather was born in northern Oklahoma, in what was known as the Cherokee Outlet in 1902. I have not been able to find his family's name on the Dawes Rolls, so none of my family can be official citizens of the Cherokee Nation at this point.

One of these days, I'd like to seriously research his family line--and the rest of my mother's family line for that matter. I know very little about it, and the rest of my family is just as clueless.

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2007 01:34 PM

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It will always change. Who is to say that the next group of political appointees are not going to stir things up for you any worse than the last?

Excellent point! That's why anyone that truly loves this country and what it stood for, must be constantly vigilant for those that don't.

The most common mistake is to say, my guys won so every thing is OK. It's not... it's not OK for anyone to fuck up this country, regardless of who's side appointed or elected them.

bluecuracao 07-28-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 368565)
Are there still a lot of pureblood Indians in Mexico? More than here in the states?

Oh yes.

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If we do nothing, the country will change is ways I don't like.

It's going to change anyway. It's ALWAYS changing.

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Excellent point! That's why anyone that truly loves this country and what it stood for, must be constantly vigilant for those that don't.

Those that don't love this country?? That's why so many people have always wanted to come here, in any way that they can--they love what this country really stands for.

TheMercenary 07-28-2007 04:24 PM

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Those that don't love this country?? That's why so many people have always wanted to come here, in any way that they can--they love what this country really stands for.

No, they love the fact that they can come here and make money to send home to encourage others to come and do the same. I bet few illegals understand anything more about what this country stands for other than a monetary motivation and an attempt to change one form of abject poverty to a lessor form of poverty.

elSicomoro 07-28-2007 04:38 PM

Fuck yeah...that's what pure capitalism is all about. Isn't it great?

TheMercenary 07-28-2007 04:40 PM

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Fuck yeah...that's what pure capitalism is all about. Isn't it great?

As long as we make it ok to shoot them as the try to enter the country illegally, sure. Would they be in season all year round? What's the bag limit?

elSicomoro 07-28-2007 04:41 PM

But what's wrong with making money? I thought capitalism was about making money.

bluecuracao 07-28-2007 05:26 PM

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I bet few illegals understand anything more about what this country stands for other than a monetary motivation and an attempt to change one form of abject poverty to a lessor form of poverty.

You have no idea what you're talking about. But bigots never do, of course.

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2007 05:38 PM

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It's going to change anyway. It's ALWAYS changing.

Yes it is, but these people and Bush, are not changing it for the better.


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Those that don't love this country?? That's why so many people have always wanted to come here, in any way that they can--they love what this country really stands for.
They love the money they can make. They love the fact they can move around relatively unimpeded. They love the fact that they can flaunt the law with relative impunity. They love getting free medical care at the expense of others.
But they don't love this country, they are Mexicans with no desire to be Americans. Their allegiance is to a foreign country, which is why they fly a foreign flag.


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