The Cellar - September 30, 2008: False Kiva

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- - September 30, 2008: False Kiva (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=18259)

It looks like that from my mushroom patch.

God is obviously a woman

How you figure that?

The crab nebula looks like a doily? The milky way is colour-coordinated with the walls of the cave?

:bolt:

I just found this day picture.
http://cellar.org/2008/daytime.jpg

I've spent twenty-five years camping in the desert and photographing the night sky. Any photograph that will show the Milky Way in this detail would require the shutter to be open for a long time, creating star trails. This has to be a composite.

Welcome to the Cellar, CliffWalker. :D

I think you're right, but the photographer only claims that everything in the picture is real, which I believe it is.

First I want to say that this is a beautiful image, Mr. Palcholka is very talented. However, it does bother me that he does not admit that this image is a composite of more than one image. I don't understand why he feels compelled to state it is only one image with only one exposure. I read on another site where he admits that it is a panoramic composite of four images that were spliced together by a photography house.

I've worked in the graphic arts industry for over 30 years and have done digital retouching on images, and also am an amateur astronomer. The image has definitely been manipulated, its color levels, contrast, etc. And as for a composite of separate images, the obvious sign is the horizon—it is different from the daylight image posted on this site—you can't move mountains. This leads me to suspect the image of the Milky Way was a separate image too.

Mr. Palcholka, "There is nothing wrong with composite images, what is wrong is stating that it is not and trying to deceive others to that fact."http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hs7L0FLHgi...daytime_01.jpg

Thanks, One Monkey, for the info!

Welcome to the Cellar.

I tried to post an image showing the daylight horizon and the night horizon side by side but I don't see it here.

Here is my blog site for you to see:

http://www.onemonkeyarts.blogspot.com

Your post appears blank to me, One Monkey, but when I quote it, I can see you are trying to link to this image. I've uploaded it as an attachment.

edit: and in the time it took me to do that, I saw your second post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by One Monkey (Post 527998)

However, it does bother me that he does not admit that this image is a composite of more than one image. I don't understand why he feels compelled to state it is only one image with only one exposure. I read on another site where he admits that it is a panoramic composite of four images that were spliced together by a photography house.

Where does he claim, "it is only one image with only one exposure", I've not seen that?
What he told me was, all his pictures have been verified by the National Park Service to be real stuff.

Oh, and welcome to the Cellar, One Monkey. :D

http://www.brightnightgallery.com/canfalkiv.html

A link to Mr. Palcholka's site, under Product Description he lists the image as Media: Unedited Photograph

http://munnecke.com/blog/?p=362

This site is someone who ordered his photos, a second person claim that the photos are not retouched.

http://www.twanight.org/newTWAN/photos.asp?ID=3001638

This site he admits it was a mosaic of four images.

http://www.terranuts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10447

At this site, scroll down to MAC's second reply and he quotes Mr. Pacholka's reply on how he took the photo.

In the forth link he tells how he did it.
You say he didn't.
I believe him.