I love the Coen brothers. Have you seen Raising Arizona?

As to not liking then liking a movie: my ex tried to get me to watch Pulp Fiction, and the first time I totally didn't like it...just wasn't into it.

Now I've probably seen it 30 times and it is in my top 10.

Sure. Fargo is probably my favorite though.

Yeah, that's a good one.

I don't know though...O Brother Where Art Thou is another movie I've watched over and over and over.

I need to find a copy of No Country for Old Men.

Oh, then they won't mind the bonfire...Am I right?


I love No Country for Old Men. 2 of my friends worked on it..They haven't watched it yet, thinking it will suck. They are WrOnG.

I was the same way about Spongebob. I thought it was so juvenile and beneath me until I gave it a chance and now it cracks me up. Pulp Fiction, though...meh...I could never really get into it. Like one of those inside jokes that someone keeps telling but I can't seem to get my brain around.

I like most of the Coen movies. I saw No Country for Old Men and wanted to open a vein, so that was not so much for me. I loved The Big Lebowski and Oh Brother Where art Thou.

PF definitely needs to be watched more than once before it starts making sense. I think it's either a love it or hate it kind of movie, though.

I need to watch some of the older CoBro's movies, like Hudsucker Proxy and Miller's Crossing.

I liked the Hudsucker Proxy. Haven't seen Miller's Crossing, though.

Back to the OT - the main reason I can see for a campus-wide ban is the damn MESS smokers make. Packets, wrappers and butts, butts, butts, butts.

Somehow, reasonably civic-minded people think that the wrapper and foil from a cigarette packet don't count. And butts can be flicked anywhere - they're not litter!

When I smoked in a public place, I would use an ashtray. If there wasn't one I would extinguish my butt and bin it next opportunity. I didn't even like flicking my ash on the ground - and certainly not on the carpet, as I saw MANY people do in pubs, even when an ashtray was on the table! I would always upbraid those with me if I saw them doing it.

Okay, it's not specifically smokers - there are plenty of litterers out there. But it seems to me that smoking-littering has become worse here since the indoor smoking ban. Kinda like some people's reaction to the removal of litter bins on station platforms due to the IRA using them as bomb containers. "FINE THEN! I'LL JUST THROW IT ON THE FLOOR!"

The sorry thing is that then as well as now, it is unsightly, unpleasant, anti-social and unnecessary. Inconvenient? Yes. Suck it up, Mary.

Same reason I hate the frisbee golf game setup at out local state park. Frisbee golfers apparently think their cig butts, drink containers, and chip bags aren't littler - especially when they place them neatly up against a tree, or jam them in to the branches. They generally have unleashed dogs with them too... what could possiblee go wrong... fucking frisbee golfer jerks...

I've bitched at people for throwing their butts right freaking next to the little smoker tower ashtray thingy...that is true.

But people are rude, smokers not necessarily more rude than people who run into you with a shopping cart and don't apologize, no more rude than litterers who think it's ok to litter ANYTHING, no more rude than the asshole who cuts you off in traffic because his time and space are more important than yours, no more rude than people who dismiss and judge others for no apparent purpose other than to get a dig in, and no more rude than someone who is a self-proclaimed logical and emotionless person replying to a comment about bar ownership and rights saying something assholey like "blah blah blah urinate anywhere blah..."

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But it's OK to be an ass to a smoker because they are weak, and stupid, and they won't live long anyway. :rolleyes:

btw...pierce is not a smoker.

I love disc golf - used to play all the time. used to carry a bag to pick up other people shit too.

Several people here have seen my outdoor smoking behavior ... if there is no actual ashtray available, I twist the ember off the butt, crush the butt making sure it's actually out, and stow it in the watch pocket of my jeans until I'm within reach of a proper receptacle. If I know in advance I'll need one, sometimes I'll bring an old Altoids tin.

I do that too, wolf. I've forgotten about butts in my pocket and later I'm like "what the heck is that?"

I'd love to quit smoking...someday. I was all belligerent when our law passed, saying "well I was GOING TO quit but now I'm just going to keep smoking out of spite." It was tongue-in-cheek, as I know I'm only hurting myself. :)

I will sometimes flick away a cigarette end, but usually it goes into a bin. If there isn't a bin, I usually look for a grid or somesuch to drop it into. (unles I'm drunk in whch case it's not uppermost on my mind). From time to time I'll pocket it to deal with later.

I'm far from consistent. But what I won't do is flick it onto the street when there are bins or ashtrays nearby.

The thing that annoys me about smokers are those that smoke while driving, then flick their butts out, especially at night when i'm tired. I've gotten a fright when the cole explodes on the road, makes me think something has fallen off their car for a second.

Also, there are the most disgusting pigs ever who empty out their incar ashtray onto the road when they're stopped at the lights. Fucking foul no respect arseholes are they.