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Nirvana 05-06-2010 09:41 AM

If they are not going to incarcerate them for any length of time, I think all they need is a hole to pee out of. What are the stats for women that rape? How is that accomplished?:eyebrow:

Shawnee123 05-06-2010 09:46 AM

Seriously?

Women molest their own children, with sticks and hands and...yeah, it happens.

Violence isn't curbed by cutting off the wee-wee.

rditlkustoleit 05-06-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 654112)
There is a trend towards that kind of behaviour. A male lion taking over the pride kills all the cubs, so that the females immediately go into heat and all new cubs are born with his genes. Stepfathers (offical or common-law) are FAR more likely to kill or abuse children who do not carry their genes.

Law of the jungle, baby.

Completely different set of circumstances/variables/causation, therefore, different effect than I was describing.

However, as an experiment, I just engaged a pride of lions, killed the alpha-male and all cubs.

Although I gave it my most sincere effort, I can assure you that none of the felines wanted to have sex with me...

Again.

I couldn't even impress them with my user name!?

monster 05-06-2010 09:52 AM

and what punishment for the parents whose child was out in their nightdress in the middle of the night and they had no idea?

Nirvana 05-06-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 654143)


Violence isn't curbed by cutting off the wee-wee.

I disagree castration takes away the hormones and they have nothing that gives them pleasure in that way.

rditlkustoleit 05-06-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 654145)
and what punishment for the parents whose child was out in their nightdress in the middle of the night and they had no idea?

Agreed! There is a serious omission in this story's time line where the parents are completely unaware of, well, anything. Child is abducted or leaves home in the middle of the night, returns and goes back to bed before anyone takes notice?

I suppose anything could happen, but it is quite suspect.

squirell nutkin 05-06-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 654145)
and what punishment for the parents whose child was out in their nightdress in the middle of the night and they had no idea?

I thought the story said the child was abducted from the home. I know people whose bedrooms are far enough away from their children's that they wouldn't hear quiet sounds. Perhaps the parents are heavy sleepers? Might be bad parenting, might not be.

It is hard to imagine a traumatized four year old opting to go back to bed rather than seek out its parents. That's a hard one to parse.

monster 05-06-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 654174)
I thought the story said the child was abducted from the home. I know people whose bedrooms are far enough away from their children's that they wouldn't hear quiet sounds. Perhaps the parents are heavy sleepers? Might be bad parenting, might not be.

Almost as a footnote at the end of the story:

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Because the victim is so young, there are questions, such as, "How did the suspect get access to her?" The police say there are no signs of forced entry at the home, but windows were left open at the house that night.
If you have a 4yo, you don't leave windows open that they could get out of, do you? really? And especially not if there are people around who might want to get in....

toranokaze 05-06-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 654183)
Almost as a footnote at the end of the story:



If you have a 4yo, you don't leave windows open that they could get out of, do you? really? And especially not if there are people around who might want to get in....

You should leave windows open period.

I don't think castration is the answer to pedophilia. It seems like a false sense of security; a cut and release policy isn't going to make anyone safer not really it really means that this pedophilia just has one less tool at his disposal.

Furthermore, incarceration outside the legal sentience of a judge(excluding prehearing detention) is not just wrong it is anti-American. If we are enforcing laws outside of the legal system then we are nothing more than a mob not only a mob but a lazy one that wont go out and draw and quarter its pedophiles but just locks them away illegally.

Finally I don't think true pedophiles or serial rapist can reformed; they are sick, mentally, and there is nothing that can be done to change them said for locking them in a deep dark hole or execution (fuck lethal injection bring back public execution by guillotine) which out laws should reflect.

Sheldonrs 05-06-2010 12:16 PM

Once they have absolute proof they have the right guy, castrate him right then and there and then make him choke to death on his own balls. No prison time, no appeals, just pain and death.

Beest 05-06-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 654162)
I disagree castration takes away the hormones and they have nothing that gives them pleasure in that way.

I've seen interviews with individuals who have undergone voluntary chemical castration and still fight the impulse to abuse. Castration does not address the behavioural disorder.

jinx 05-06-2010 12:30 PM

Does it help them win the fight?

toranokaze 05-06-2010 12:31 PM

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153618

Nirvana 05-06-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 654226)
I've seen interviews with individuals who have undergone voluntary chemical castration and still fight the impulse to abuse. Castration does not address the behavioural disorder.


I don't think chemical castration works. Testosterone can reverse this and its available.

Flint 05-06-2010 02:39 PM

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Checking the state's sex offender registry, 22 violent and sex offenders appear within a mile of the girl's house. Some of them are classified as sexual predators. Eight of the offenders are within a half-mile of the home.
How hard could it be to round up an angry mob to burn down 22 houses in one night? I'm not seeing much of a downside...because even if you don't get the right one, you still got 22 scumbags who don't deserve to live. And if they scurry from their ratholes, you could easily round them up and perform some of the other corrective actions described in this thread.

I don't think any other sexual predators would be moving into that neighborhood. Of course, there is the potential problem of developing some Freddy Krugerism.


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