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Trilby 10-29-2010 12:37 PM

Does it count as a sport if you can do it while drinking beer and in air conditioning?

Happy Monkey 10-29-2010 12:44 PM

Hockey?

skysidhe 10-29-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 691373)
Does it count as a sport if you can do it while drinking beer and in air conditioning?

AND the jukebox playing in the background.

Spexxvet 10-30-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 691364)
That would rule out Olympic ski jumping. There is an increase in heart rate as they go down the jump, because they are excited, but they aren't panting and gasping for breath. Is Olympic ski jumping not a sport?

That's a tough one. IMHO, it is no more a sport than playing darts, golfing, or figure skating. In all three, the competitors practice their form, and the results are based on how well they execute that form, by a judge, or how close their projectile comes to it's target, or how long they jump.

There's a lot of grey area, though. Pole vaulting, long/high jump, weight lifting?

I don't know. Maybe instead of saying that the competitor has to get out of breath, I'll say that there has to be at least X amount* of physical exertion.

*purposely left vague

xoxoxoBruce 10-30-2010 09:54 AM

If they do it for money, wouldn't be a profession, rather than sport?

wolf 10-30-2010 12:09 PM

Entertainment. If you drink beer while you're doing it (company picnic softball is also not a sport), it's entertainment, not sport.

If you really want to make a determination, look at your cable lineup. Sports have their own cable channels. No 24 hour Cable Bowling Network, not a sport.

skysidhe 10-30-2010 01:33 PM

No, but there is poker and putting on the best poker face seems to be great sport.

btw,, why the cheesy sunglasses!

xoxoxoBruce 10-30-2010 06:58 PM

It's the only way to hide your lyin' eyes. :cool:

monster 10-30-2010 07:38 PM

"Recreation", "amusement" and "entertainment" feature highly in the Oxford Dictionary definition of sport ...and sex is the first example of sport, so I guess we're all going with our own definitions here....

For me, a sport needs to involve a reasonable amount of physical exertion. So darts wouldn't count. But it's widely televised and gambled on in the UK. (Let's face it though, you can bet on anything and there are some people who will. Bowling, borderline. )

I feel like there should be an element of competition.

Sports in my mind are related to physical fitness, so I sort of want to say if you can do it well without being physically fit, then it's not a sport. I wouldn't call gymnastics or shooting (or bowling) a sport.

And I sort of agree with the "definable goals" approach. But I disagree that they're not there in freestyle figure skating. You just need more referees. Whether they should be there is a different matter -figure skating was more fun when the judging was more subjective.

wolf 10-30-2010 08:46 PM

If you don't think gymnastics is a sport, you haven't seen it done right. Or there is some other British meaning for the word.

It's in the Olympics, it's a sport. So shooting is a sport, even if a fat guy can do it.

Clodfobble 10-30-2010 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
btw,, why the cheesy sunglasses!

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
It's the only way to hide your lyin' eyes.

There's even more to it than just picking up an innate sense of whether someone is lying. When you see something you're interested in or excited by, your pupils dilate a bit. It's an evolutionary thing. In theory one could have enough control over their body to defeat the instict, just like some people can beat a lie detector test. But sunglasses are easier and more reliable. They have the players spread out around such a large table these days that I suspect it would be hard for another player to see something that subtle anyway.

xoxoxoBruce 10-31-2010 01:25 AM

Yeah, that's what I meant. :lol:

Gravdigr 10-31-2010 02:16 AM

Spectator sport, if you're watching the right bowlers.


SteveDallas 10-31-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 691675)
If you don't think gymnastics is a sport, you haven't seen it done right. Or there is some other British meaning for the word.

We're arguing semantics. (Which is cool.. this is The Cellar.)

I'd never say it isn't awesome, beautiful display of athleticism, or that the gymnasts aren't highly skilled, etc.

But when it comes right down to it, the "winner" is determined by the opinions of judges on who did the best job. And for me, that means it's not a competition. Which--again for me--is an important dividing line between things lie gymnastics and figure skating on the one hand, and running or basketball or, yes, bowling, on the other.

Lamplighter 10-31-2010 11:34 AM

Winners determined by judges... AKA "blood sports"

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