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Sundae 02-12-2011 10:53 AM

I'm with you there 2.
A god that advises parents to stone their stubborn and rebellious children isn't for me either.

Link to the Stone Your Children verses in Deuteronomy via The Brick Testament - a Lego illustrated guide.

monster 02-12-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 711066)
what was the name of the last bible-passage-spewing trollbot? I'd forgotten them until now..... The last one spelled better, though.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 711077)
I don't think Klyde's a trollbot. I think this is just the stuff that plays on his mind.

I still wish I could remember the name of the last one, though. Maybe I'll have to look it up.

Gravdigr 02-12-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 2 Pencil (Post 711130)
A god that tells one of his followers -Abraham- to kill his son Isaac as sacrifice, and then tells Abraham 'haha, only kidding' at the last second is not the kind of god i want to follow.

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Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be putting me on"
God say, "No". Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killing done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61".
~Highway 61 Revisited (Bob Dylan)

smoothmoniker 02-13-2011 06:20 PM

There is quite a lot more going on in that story than just that. But by all means, if the simplistic reading makes a better punching bag, have at!

Perry Winkle 02-13-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 711090)
I learn something new every day. The Lion King was a Christian recruiting film.
Glad I never saw it now.

I thought it was about premature ejaculation. This completely undermines the foundation of my worldview.

SamIam 02-14-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 711267)
There is quite a lot more going on in that story than just that. But by all means, if the simplistic reading makes a better punching bag, have at!

Thank you for the reference to Kierkegaard's take on the matter. Unfortunately, Kierkegaard, just like the angel of compassion, flies far over the heads of most fundamentalist "theologians."

Number 2 Pencil 02-15-2011 12:01 PM

Oh sure, in the light of a certain kind of faith, the giving up of all- including a son- in the face of god's demands, is a worthy act of ultimate submission and a proof of ultimate faith in god. And the act of Abraham committing to this ultimate personal sacrifice transforms him. And god is actually generous because he stops the sacrifice once Abraham has shown himself to really be willing to do it. It makes for a wonderful story with all sorts of deep symbolism.

But it still boils down to a god telling Abraham to kill his son as a sacrificial offering. This coming from a biblical world of a deity that just loves blood sacrifices of all kinds. If that is the ultimate god of reality, he has issues.

Perry Winkle 02-15-2011 01:25 PM

I think all of the blood sacrifices are allusions to menstruation.

(I have no idea what we're talking about.)

Spexxvet 02-15-2011 01:29 PM

How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

Perry Winkle 02-15-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 711553)
How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

Spexxvet 02-15-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 711563)
God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

So you don't want to or can't answer the question?

Shawnee123 02-15-2011 02:58 PM

I have to smile and giggle. oh my silly ones. woowoowooo.

:blush:

gee willickers, fellers.

shyshyshy

Spexxvet 02-15-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 711553)
How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 711563)
God is the real terrorist. I understand now. Thank you for the illustration.

The comparison is about Abraham and a suicide bomber, not god and allah.

Discuss.

plthijinx 02-15-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 711553)
How is Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his god different than a muslim suicide bomber's willingness to sacrifice himself for his?

easy. abraham was asked by God, well commanded really, to sacrifice his son. a suicide bomber is killing himself. there is a big difference. it's one thing to sacrifice yourself but to sacrifice your offspring is another. in abrahams; case he showed God that God came first. over everything and everyone.

just sayin.

monster 02-15-2011 10:14 PM

FSM only asks for your meatballs.....


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