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footfootfoot

04-14-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 723042)

Why should it be hard, expensive, and slow?

That's the divorce thread

ZenGum

04-15-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 723114)

Your muse has arrived. :muse:

So an immigrant walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder...

Bartender says "Where'd ya get that?"

Parrot says "hired him down by the highway."

Mmmm. Worth it?

infinite monkey

04-15-2011 07:34 AM

Worth every penny! :)

TheMercenary

04-15-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 722875)

Why is it that the people who want to restrict the influx of foreigners into the US are generally also the ones who support US soldiers being in foreign countries? Sure, the purposes and intended durations are different, but if borders are such an important part of national identity/security, why is it OK for to "violate" others' borders so? And if borders are not an important part of national identity/security, why are we so concerned about them?

Maybe I'm trolling or maybe I have a point? Whichever you think, please keep it nice, thanks :)

I have no problem with anyone coming into this country without committing a crime in that process. If you enter the UK illegally you will be kicked out. Name any Westernized country in the world where you can walk in and stay in the numbers that the US has experienced? We remain generous in that fact, to a fault. Time to shut the door and address the issue.

footfootfoot

04-17-2011 04:23 PM

Well, if you are a Turkish worker, then Germany. And you get Urlaubsgeld too. I might be wrong, I have to check with the wife's rels to be 100%. All I know is they never stop whining about the Turks.

Griff

04-17-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 723457)

I have no problem with anyone coming into this country without committing a crime in that process. If you enter the UK illegally you will be kicked out.

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Name any Westernized country in the world where you can walk in and stay in the numbers that the US has experienced? We remain generous in that fact, to a fault. Time to shut the door and address the issue.

off the top of my head

Germany- Turks (footies head)
France - North Africans
Great Britain - Indians / Carribean Islanders / Irish

"We" don't sound generous. We sound like we're wanting to bitch about something so we impose our attitude on a scapegoat.

TheMercenary

04-17-2011 08:12 PM

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Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

See: Unlawful entry a crime since '29 - Rocky Mountain News -- June 11, 2006

http://americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/isacrime.html

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