p.s. John Megahan is a friend of mine.... :lol:

It doesn't matter Buttless, although I'm reasonably confident that I understand what 'rights' are I don't even know what the phrase 'gay rights' actually means.

The thing that pisses me off the most about the state of gay discrimination in this country is that the government makes laws forbidding gays to marry each other. To our government, marriage is, pure and simple, a contractual agreement. It is not a moral situation to be legislated against (as compared to, say, murder) because it doesn't harm anyone else. IMHO, the only possible objections against gay marriage are based upon religious strictures. Since our government is constitutionally separate from churches, where does it get off restricting a contractual agreement between consenting adults based on religious proscriptions? Is this not the very essence of unconstitutionality? Every other pair of consenting adults can enter into any other contractual agreement as long as they are of the age of majority...but not gays?

Isn't it true that siblings aren't allowed to marry either, even if they can't have offspring?

I wasn't going to tackle this, as Sundae did such a bang up job already but...

Where did you get this notion that humans are the only species to have sex for fun? Or that there are no gay animals outside of humankind?

I see you over here in the philosophy section, railing against whatever state of knowledge or morals that you are apparently in, posting thread after thread of your search for truth and understanding.

Here's some advice for free: step away from the bible-class handouts and read some proper fucking books about proper fucking stuff. Read some biology and some history. Some natural history and anthropology. It's all there. If you don't fancy reading it, watch a documentary or three. Given what there is generally available about this stuff, it would take an act of will to remain this ignorant.

I don't want to see one more fucking word about your search for truth when you've stapled leadlined blinkers to the sides of your head.

Now I'm beginning to understand the origin of that commonly-heard expression "Christ was as gay as a sea urchin."

I think what cats do behind closed doors is nobody's business but theirs. If a couple of cat couples get together, hey, there's nothing wrong with swapping as long as everybody's into it.

And as long as no one gets hurt!

Well said Dana.

Homosexuals. They're the ones being hit.

Good point. Homosexuals don't deserve that. Nobody does.

My first thoughts were for the cats.
I'm obviously a closet homophobe.

In the same way Sarge is a Nazi...

Removing barriers to gay people exercising their rights.

Thanks Classic :)

So, just 'rights' then.