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xoxoxoBruce 01-14-2004 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jinx
If an animal didn't feel pain, what would be it's motivation to avoid being eaten?
The survival instinct isn't about avoiding pain, it's about survival.:)

Happy Monkey 01-14-2004 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
The survival instinct isn't about avoiding pain, it's about survival.:)
Pain is part of the survival instinct.

Undertoad 01-14-2004 08:03 PM

Whether or not they feel pain, they certainly have a less developed nervous system than mammals. If they can't really think about their pain at advanced levels, then I say it is less meaningful.

Some plants have systems that researchers say are analogous to pain. But the feeling of pain is not what makes it ok to eat the plants and not the researchers.

SteveDallas 01-14-2004 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad

Some plants have systems that researchers say are analogous to pain. But the feeling of pain is not what makes it ok to eat the plants and not the researchers.

So what does make it OK?

Sun_Sparkz 01-14-2004 08:28 PM

The point is not weather it is ok or not to EAT fish. Its that is wrong to inflict harm to it weather or not your going to eat it. if you catch a fish you want to eat, then good. Kill it quick and get it over with. dont make its last few hours painful, confused, scared and distraught.

quzah 01-14-2004 09:09 PM

"It's ok to blow my head off with a shotgun because no one loves me any more." -- Kurt

Ok, so I don't know that was his exact final sentence... All in all, not someone I'd model my life after. Anyone who kills themselves is not someone I want to emulate. That being said, I believe there are a few scenarios where I'd want to be dead rather than alive.

Oh, and don't be surprised when that guy gets his head bit off by a shark later in life. Or maybe we'll get lucky and he'll drown next time he's out fishing. Karma.

Quzah.

wolf 01-15-2004 12:37 AM

How to tell the guys in the picture are Polish ...

Think about it.

It was 01-JAN.

In Poland.

Not a country known for it's lush greenery and tropical winters.

Wet Suit or NOT, they have to be motherfucking FREEZING.

JeepNGeorge 01-15-2004 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
The point is not weather it is ok or not to EAT fish. Its that is wrong to inflict harm to it weather or not your going to eat it. if you catch a fish you want to eat, then good. Kill it quick and get it over with. dont make its last few hours painful, confused, scared and distraught.
Maybe they did eat it and they were just pre-marinating it.

paranoid 01-15-2004 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz

why do they struggle when you catch them? why do they hide from their predators in the weed? why do they try to escape their tank?

Instincts. Those fish that were more likely to struggle could better survive an encounter with a predator, which means they had better chances to mate and pass their genes to the next generation. Evolution in action.

The truth is there are many better things to do before you start an investigation about possible abuse of a half-dead fish by pouring champaign into its mouth. In most likelyhood, there are thousands of industrial enterprises in Poland that kill millions of fish every year through pollution. Unless you deal with these first, this police investigation would be just a PR stunt.

lumberjim 01-15-2004 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz


"Its ok to eat fish cuz they dont have any feelings". Kurt Cobain. I wouldnt go taking nirvana lyrics as a guide to life.

why do they struggle when you catch them? why do they hide from their predators in the weed? why do they try to escape their tank?

Just cause they dont talk, doesnt mean they cant feel, think and hurt. same goes for any animal.

I have lived my entire life to nirvana lyrics. so far so good.
"I'm so happy, cuz today, I found my friends, they're in my head."

probably should have posted that in the commonly misheard song lyrics thread, huh?

blue 01-15-2004 08:45 AM

Only on the cellar could a thread be equal parts fish pain/nirvana lyrics. :)

tjennings 01-15-2004 11:40 AM

Did I see in an earlier post that pollock get other fish drunk?

Pi 01-15-2004 03:46 PM

2 Questions :
- Are we shure we're in Poland? Shouldn't it be Vodka and no champagne (and after all these french/freedom fries discussion how do US call champagne now?)
- If we really are in Poland I think the fish will enjoy some alcool and if not maybe it was clever enough to steel their purse

lumberjim 01-15-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Pi
2 Questions :
- Are we shure we're in Poland? Shouldn't it be Vodka and no champagne (and after all these french/freedom fries discussion how do US call champagne now?)
- If we really are in Poland I think the fish will enjoy some alcool and if not maybe it was clever enough to steel their purse

zippy, is that you?

Pi 01-15-2004 03:58 PM

No, just me, myself and I.


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