Get off it. I've been dropped on the ground, held down, and pepper sprayed by cops, and I'm a white middle class male.

Fact is, cops are all bad. They either commit henious wrongs in the course of doing their jobs, or they condone it and protect by silence and prevarication other cops who do so.

That isn't a broad brush, that's an industrial class spraygun.

Oh, you're gonna get sooooo many tickets.:worried:

My experience with people with dimentia is that they were remarkably strong.:confused:

As I see it, Whites in the middle and upper classes are "normal." If you don't fall into either of those classes, or don't look like you do, you could be in for a hell of a time. I base that on a variety of factors, such as my personal experience of living in the pseudo-south, the backgrounds of prison populations and various incidents of racial profiling.

Care to retort?

Well, all I can say is that this lady was 80 and pretty frail. I was afraid of breaking her bones. She'd already slapped me once with all her might which was about like getting pawed by a kitten. Also, dementia is just what I assign the reasons for her bizarre attitude to. Maybe she was just - what?

Oh yeah, on the WMCM thing: I think it depends on how you look. Remember I said that the police would be unlikely to pick on a guy in a three piece suit. Now a guy with long hair or a punk rocker look - that's different. I'd be curious to know if any white guy, wearing a business suit, was seriously harassed by our boys in blue?

Yes, especially after dark with no witnesses.:(

Pseudo-south?

And profiling, when used correctly, is a valid pro-active tool.

My friend has picked up as many whites as blacks using it.

When my Nan was in the later stages of alzheimers she dragged a radiator off the nursinghome wall.

Wow! I didn't know alzheimer's gave people such strength! The lady I refer to didn't have alzheimer's. But all this brings up an interesting point: Should the police figure that any elderly person they encounter has alzheimer's and treat them accordingly?

Here's my experience with the police which makes me feel that they are on the side of middle class males. I mentioned an abusive ex boyfriend in the death penalty thread. Well, one of the things that happened is that he tried to strangle me. I was extremely lucky to escape being killed. I went down to the police and swore out a complaint against him and it was taken by a policeman who looked like this guy's twin brother (unsettling, to say the least). The policeman made a half hearted attempt to find the guy (I'd told him all the places he could most likely find him). The cop said he couldn't find him and never issued so much as a summons. He did do a thorough check on ME, however, and wanted to run me in for an old unpaid traffic ticket. He seemed disappointed when his dispatcher told him that the matter had been cleared. That was the endof police involment in the whole thing!

Missouri, particularly the southern portion of the state.

I'm not saying it doesn't have valid uses, but I do think it's abused and overused.

The right tool for the right job.

Matt, if you don't mind me asking, why do you have such disdain for police?

I've had some bad experiences and some good experiences but I would never generalise that broadly about *anyone* *anywhere*.

Here's a good one. :D