I'm typing with one hand right now...

Amen. Like I said, nod your head and say "yes, mmhmm."

The plight of ducky is in her own head, have an internal monologue with yourself and America no on in the cellar cares, agrees or wants to HEAR the useless shit that comes out of your piehole. Take all your ideas and revolutions to policy and keep them in Hong Kong.

Do you even realize no one in the cellar takes you seriously? Look how many people think you are ridiculous. Save yourself, and Hong Kong's reputation of its youth.

You really should keep the other one out of your nose. Ya teach some bad habits that way!

Your mistake: what you call invaders are the same people who contribute so much to the American economy. That also applies to other parts of the world such as Northern Italy. What you call invaders are really a rich source of responsible workers.

What happens when illegal immigrants are rounded up and deported? That region goes recessionary. The illegals being a very important and productive part of that economy. But then these are facts as even documented in Nebraska and upstate NY.

Again, the most productive people in any nation are its third generation immigrants. Illegal or legal does not matter. They are only illegal because American immigration laws are being promoted by the same fools who also insist Saddam had WMDs. They are even using the same logic.

Those immigrants - and those many student we have now drive from America using the same 'we fear them all' reasoning - are a major source of American wealth and productivity.

Those you call invaders are also some of the best workers in America. Apparently you have been listening to 'loud and vocal' extremists rather than listen to quiet logic from moderates. Those are the misguided one who claim illegal use the social services. They do not due to risks of being caught. Heavy users of social services tend to be the lazier citizens who instead it is their right - responsibility be damned.

Yer way outta yer league, Flint.

tw has taken to lying to children. Oh, the humanity.

We want to avoid genocide Merc, we've been over this. :p

From the Washington Post of 2 Jun 2007:

My experience with tw suggests you might have written this post rather shorter without suffering as to accuracy:

The guy is not always to be believed.

Just a suggestion to use the "Chinese Method" of dealing with protests in the streets and squares of Amerixca.

Violent crime up as is illegal immigration.

We'll get it under control.
Over all, violent crime is down and has been going down for some time.
Some specific types go up for short periods, but the large picture is good and getting better.
Once we get illegals under control it will vastly improve.

Do you have a source rage? It is really hard to tell but everything I find says its going up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18949687/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5480227
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/12/crime.rate/index.html

From what it looks like it has been going down for the past few years and then just suddenly jumped back up.

I think he missed your point. It was a good one too. Wish I had thought of it.

You can look them up for yourself here...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm
and here...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=21902
and here...
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/
2005 is the last fully tabulated year to date.
There is a really good book on it, you can get it on Amazon, it is about the culture of fear in America.

Reread this source.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5480227
It was going down for a while, as shown on your graph, then spiked up in 2006.


Your sources, and as you've pointed out, say that the last fully tabulated year was in 2005, but finding are starting to show that the US has recently started to become more violent.

You can't really say either side is right because we had a low downfall in violent crime and then recently shot up so it is hard to tell if it is a change in trend or just a fluke.

That is the bottom line here.

History demonstrates that if lying becomes situation normal among political leaders, then crime increases. But public now perceives George Jr as lying from corporate welfare to the drug industry, to global warming, to "Mission Accomplished". Three and four years ago, the public did not believe lying was situation normal by our government.

As this adminstration lies repeatedly, then crime should increase.

Come on tw, you can't be that big of a Wacko. Bush has nothing to do with the crime stats in the US.:rolleyes:

Look at the chart. When Nixon lied just like George Jr, crime skyrocketed. Like George Jr, Nixon also advocated wiretapping without judicial review of everyone because Americans could not be trusted. Deja vue. Well at least Nixon did not overtly advocate torture and imprisionment without judicial review. No decent American would ever advocate such crimes ... until today.

If the president is a crook and so many want to be just like the president - crime wave. At least Nixon denied he is a crook. George Jr will not even do that. Crime wave.

Ok, ok, you are a wacko, let's put that aside. So you think there is a straightline graph which shows that crime ebs and tides based on who is President?

So using this graph from the FBI: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_01/01crime2.pdf where total reported crimes flattened out in 1999 and began to rise in 2000 do you think that was because everyone knew at that time that Bush was going to be the new president in those years, or was it something else?

And in this graph: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/pdf/02crime2.pdf do you think that crime flattened out or actually decreased as a measure of population in 2001 because the majority of criminals just had not followed the press and no one had told them that Bush had been elected and now it was time to commit more crime? I wonder...

And in this graph: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_03/pdf/03sec2.pdf do you think that crime continued to actually go down from 2002 to 2003 because of some other curious unknown fact only known to tw? I wonder... still going down and Bush was President as I recall in those years.

Yep, that ought to do it. TW Crime Theory busted.

Um... seriously, get off the crack. You are being silly. The people don't look to politicians for moral guidance.

I'm not sure it's as silly as it sounds. When the President surrounds himself with morally corrupt people like Cheney, Rove, etc., the people they interact with emulate them. And the minions the emulators control take their cue in a trickle down manner. They see the people above them working with lobbyists and power mongers so that must be the accepted norm, the way to get ahead. All thinking becomes short term, what's in it for me, how do I make that next rung on the ladder, or more importantly keep from getting knocked off this one.

No, the general population doesn't look to politicians for moral guidance but they do get cues from how the rich and famous got that way. When normal people get unhappy with their plight, and see success come to people that fuck over other people, they scale it to their world.

This cause and effect doesn't have to be widespread to have an effect on national statistics, only some in addition to normal will do it.

Do you think I could get a Doctoral thesis out of that?

No you can't get a Doctoral thesis out of it because it is basically BS. Normal people are not criminals. Normal people who are "unhappy with their plight" are not running around trying to figure out how to "fuck over other people", they are trying to figure out how to be happier, and most normal people are not commiting crimes to do it. Additionally the FBI crime stats do not support tw's fantasy that there is a relationship between who is President and the national crime rate.

But but but I'm not talking about normal people, just the borderlines that can swing statistics.
I so wanted to play doctor, sigh.

You don't need to pass cellar scrutiny just some university somewhere. Tired of your amateur status?

Yeah, tired of saying I'm not a real Doctor, I just play one in the dark.

Who said anything about looking for guidance? The attitude is set by leadership. Because Nixon was an outright liar, everyone - virtually everyone - did drugs of some form. Remember, marijuana was considered as evil as heroine. And since American leaders lied repeatedly about Vietnam, then marijuana was everywhere. Widespread truth was "don't trust anyone over 30". This because the president make it acceptable to be a liar.

Are drugs today as routine as they were then? No. As America slowly began to trust its leaders - a trust that takes long to establish - then even crime diminished. Being honest and 'trusting anyone over 30' became acceptable again.

85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. That reality has never changed. In NYC, Giuliani (actually his Police Commissioner) massively reduced murder. How did he do that? He started by removing the squeegee guy and litter bugs. How does the enforcement of misdemeanors reduce murders? Same concept. Do you now accuse Giuliani of being on crack? Or do you grasp the meaning behind “85% or all problems are directly traceable to top management”?


Only question remains whether a crime trend seen often applies to this sharp upswing in current American crime - especially in mid-size American cities.

first time reading this thread
 

doomed? invaded??


Answer: Looking out my serene window I see our airspace is clear. I can have more than one child if I choose too AND we don't skin our dogs and cats alive for the pelts unlike China AND Um ...I see no Canadians flocking to get in.[North] It just hurts when people try to get in the back door. [south]

So no dying America, no but if America dies the world dies so be a friend.

ooops.

Ancient China ruled once or was that Japan?


What is real Chinese? Of ancient and humble origins? or the Dog murders,bicycle crowded, leave your daughters under a bush to die kind of Chinese?

allowing isn't freedom??

*thinking* :blush:

The ones with the ancient secret that gets laundry so clean?

And discovered that Westerner's love MSG! :D

Invaders, eh? Well duck_duck, if every immigrant is an invader and should be kicked out, you were an immigrant here and we're glad you ceased "invading" our country. Yay for us!

I know the PERFECT way to get all of the invaders/immigrants out: convince them all that the US is broken beyond repair and that they will almost certainly be a victim of some of the rampant violence overtaking the country, just walking out the door of their home! They'll all be gone by the end of the year!

The truth of the matter is that EVERY American, save for native Americans, aka Indians, got here because someone immigrated here in the past (or even recently, for first generation immigrants). Both sides of my family "invaded" here in the early 1600s, settled in Virginia, started plantations, and became Americans by working and contributing to the nation. Should I leave? If so, where am I supposed to go? The US *is* the among the wealthiest countries in the world, and it is what it is because of the hard work of immigrant descendants. It has the culture it does because it has woven together the many cultures of the people who immigrated here over time, to the point that we even have our own unique accent to the English language.

duck_duck, really, it's time to grow up. Take some US history and civics classes in the US and find out how it really works. I can wave any flag I want in the street and can say pretty much anything I want while doing so because I have the freedom to have an opinion and to express it. The Founding Fathers of the United States were no idiots: they spent months and months writing and rewriting our Constitution and Bill of Rights based on solid history and a desire not to repeat the mistakes of the governing bodies of the lands from whence they came. We have the freedoms we do to ensure that we are not squashed under the thumbs of tyranny, as many of our ancestors were before coming here. It is worth noting, also, that nothing changes and improvement never occurs if those who would have the ideas to change it are discouraged or even outlawed from doing so. Those freedoms also allow us to know the real truth of what happens in our country, right down to crime stats (Freedom of Information Act), and gives our newspapers the right to print it (First Amendment), unlike China, which restricts internet access and limits the information its citizens get in order to keep people like you happy and believing that you are safe.

Someone else already said it, but if you want to make a change (and it's clear that you don't; you just want to play the armchair critic), get back over here and run for office, vote, and/or be an active voice in the ear of a legislator who *can* make a difference. Until then, and someone else already said this too, shut your piehole.

And so ends the regime of ducky.

And btw, I said shut your piehole it was me!

You are not very smart are you? I never said every immigrant is an invader. I said the illegal ones are. haha
Try to pay attention.

Perhaps YOU should pay attention. The rest of my post is valid and relevant, yet you glaze over the parts that don't support your point.

Look quick, your immaturity and lack of life experience are showing...

look you soul-less american white devils--when duck-cunt sez "haha" that means, in chinko-speak: "I so want your big, huge, girth-y American dicks to put in my ass and unworthy mouth so you can spurt your good American jizz in my face," in HongKongian. Cost to you , white devil? fifty cents!

Learn to translate, ya mugs.


Try to pay attention.

DuckCunt is speaking to you!!

You really can tell what things are thinking!

for Beestie

I'm thinking you may wish I hadn't bothered)

oh--the pain, the PAIN!

Go please fuck yourself, ya'all.

please.

I SO fucking wish I hadn't bothered. ya cunt ya. go suck something, bitch.

Wow! I like you this way! (Not that I ever didn't...)

oh---monster thinks I don't mean it?

monster thinks I give a rats ass what she thinks? jajajajjjajajajjajaj.(oh, translate it cunny) Monster, I hate you right along with ali the EVer-hip Lefty=-----a woman SO FUCKING hip that she canna think fer herself but ca onlly puke the Lefty Line! that's you. that's ali. ya boring twats! eh, go fuck yerselves!

Oh, I wanna buy you a shot! You're the life of the party! ::: pours another drink :::

NO. I WON'T MAKE OUT WITH YOU.

::: pinches you on the tittynipple and runs away :::

:lol: Bri you think I suck, I think you rock. Life's so unfair sometimes.

I think she's lost the plot. Anyway, I thought she was leaving?

How lucky we are that she's decided to come back.

So much more entertaining when there's a fruitloop on the loose. :)

After reading that, I'm sorry I brought it up.

I'm sorry but at the beginning of your post your attempt to equate illegal immigration with all immigration made the rest of your post not valid or worth commenting on.

i am brianna's withering distaste. more vodka!

you speak with the tongue of my inner devil. your hatred makes you stronger. come to the dark side......

she sleeps peacefully now, children......

her head will hurt in the morning. she will feel remorse....but defiance will prevent her from expressing it. and thus, the cycle will continue.

i promise you all, that if i ever meet bri in person, i will immediately put her across my lap and spank the fear of god into her.

:rolleyes:

Is america dying? Yes.
despite duck_duck hate you still let invaders flood your border, crime is out of control. Yes I know you head in the sand types thing I'm wrong or stupid.
So tell me, how many 18 year old girls get killed in broad daylight at a mall before you say your crime is out of control?

Oh wait! That happens so often that you see it as the norm.
Stupid duck for not knowing that before.

Damn....

I've come to a REAL realization...................................
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she thinks WE have our head in the sands!
She's stuuuuuuuupid. STUUUPid. lol

Dude, I urge all other Americans to immediately vacate your house, your property, your family. Let's get the fuck outta here, America sucks!! Seriously, I am, even though we actually have propelled the world more than any other civilization EVER we are folding under our own greatness! We need to leave everything we work for, stand for, are praised for! WHY? YOU ASKE ME WHY?

Cause ducky said so! Duh!

Yup, no crime in america. Ignore your own stats. lol

Go shop at target and die. And get told crime is not a problem in america.
Fresh you are a propaganda agent. lol

really duckcunt, that's pretty insensitive and IN POOR TASTE, even for a stupid round-headed chink like you.

I am sorry that an American boy fucked you up the ass and then didn't call you the next day, but, honey, please try to get over it. I give you a dollar, ok? that make you happy, ok?

stupid cunt.

oh, and ali? jesus, you're a bitch. i want you to know, honey, that i don't take your boring bullshit posts seriously but I know when I've hit your sweet spot --it feels so good to fuck with you! :) it REALLY does!!!!!!!!

Duck, you have to understand that what you are hearing in the news is a misrepresentation of what is happening here. The US is a lot bigger than where you live so it is hard for all foreigners to understand how North America is different than most other countries.

Mmmm... Duckie has gone troll.

I suggest this thread be locked, and duck_duck chastened.

I would pay hard earned money to see that!