Jeb, I understand what you are saying. If you don't mind, I think I can provide a bit of perspective.

First of all, thanks for being honest about what you feel. It takes guts to reveal your thoughts and feelings in such an open way, without a defense mechanism already built in. Good on ya.

Secondly, I am familiar with your posts, yet, so I have no real context from which to address your specific situation.

But!

Here's what I see:

The grammar and spelling thing gets irritating to some people. It doesn't bother me, much because I see much worse at my workplace everyday. Some people find it more difficult to see the specific meaning in what you are saying if it isn't articulated well. The nature of text communication is problematic in that way.

Because it is difficult to accurately express *anything* in its full form using text (unless, of course we all write 150 page dissertations) we're all going to take things the wrong way, once in a while. On a message board, there is no body language or facial expression. No amount of fun little emoticons can capture and express human emotions and the dynamics around them. I truly believe that 85% of the shit storms that happen around here can be attributed to that. Well, maybe 80%. Anyway, quite a few. If you feel yourself getting pissed off, or hurt, let it go and come back in a few days.

These, I think are the main reasons why it is so easy to think you aren't part of the "popular" crowd. Despite all the "<enter cellar user name> is an asshat" and "Let's see more of <enter cellar user name>" threads, there is no popularity contest. It's much easier than that. Here are some ideas on how to be more involved in the cellar:

- Post a lot of interesting points.
- Don't call names.
- Be funny. No matter what kind of sense of humor you have, someone is bound to think you are funny if you let that part of yourself go, here.
- Post a lot of mindless fun in the Nothingland forum.
- Get to know other members and what they like, how you can relate, etc.
- Think of the most interesting thing that happened to you, this week and start a discussion about it.
- Find a picture of something you care about and start a thread about it.

Of course, those are all just ideas. I don't make the rules around here (and wouldn't want to.)

I like to make a game of getting my post count to a certain point, because that means I am more involved. It's a personal thing, to me. Not a popularity thing. And you can see by my post count, that in 5 years, I haven't been a heavy poster, really. But that is just me.

I think the investment you make in this place determines what you get out of it....(maybe there is some famous quote like that?)

So, anyway, Jeb, Cloud, Fresh and whoever else is new around here, I hope you stick around, because the vast personality differences are what make this forum so interesting.

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Jeboduuza -- I think you've answered you own question. Over 60 responses in just a few hours. That's impressive.

how about 'cocksmith'?

Never heard that before.

OK, buttmunch, you asked for it.

Here it comes, beyotch.

You'd better be sitting in jinx lap for this one...

Commence flinching...

LJ, U я teh suck.


Sometimes, what has to be done just has to be done. I am not proud.

Of course.. this is clear.

But why a particular group? Am I learning a new skill? Perhaps there's a group of people who are good at it. Acceptance by this group would validate my new-found skills. Perhaps there's a group with a lot of power at my job. Acceptance by this group would mark me as a prime candidate for a promotion. Perhaps there's a group of guys that seem to attract a lot of hot babes. Acceptance by this group would make it easier for me to score.

What does acceptance by The Cellar grant? Why should a newbie care? If you walk into a restaurant and see a table with 10 people, all strangers to you, all having a good time, do you have a desire to sit down, join them, and become part of the group? How is this like, and not like, a new poster approaching The Cellar?

That anvil's gonna hurt really bad.

:lol2: :vikingsmi

i didn't say i was nice. i certainly never said that i never poked fun at you. i do say that i've limited my comments to the things you've said and the way you've acted. I wouldn't judge you based on any thing other than....

....oh wow......i gotta go!

Correct spelling. That's going to take effort for a computer game nerd like me.

And I use AIM a lot, so it will be doubly hard, how do other AIMers solve "txtspk" which I never heard of until now. It was just regular lingo to me.

Thanks for all the insightful comments everyone. If I'll be an active user, partime or just watch is all up in the air.

And I have to confess. I am lumberjim. This is a faux account I created just to stir up mayhem. I created a personal hater, just for this reason.

Just kidding.

Or am I?

oh fuck, i hope not.

Pretend you're writing it for your English teacher.

It sounds like something he'd do. On the other hand, I'm highly doubtful that LJ would know "pwn" and "5h17".

Naa the name is Too original for one of LJs SockPuppets !!

You hope he isn't kidding, or you hope he isn't really another one of your personalities? Sounds like a personal problem, LJ.

Take a deep breath...relax....now, try to recall the last thing you typed on the computer....that's it....

:)

sounds like something i'd do?! eat a dick, steve! i would not! I'd maybe pile on a topic with them, or possible tilt a poll or two....but i would never cause a ruckus like that. that was what i bashed marichiko so hard for. you take it back. before i tell everyone about your rash.

compare the spellings of Jeboduuza and lumberjim.

Has any of LJ's tendancies leaked onto the faux Jeboduuza? Or is it original typing?
Like an episode of CSI.

You relise that there are Only about 4-5 actual poster here right ??
the rest are just sock puppets , fictious beings from the desterbed minds of lunitics !!!

"like an episode of CSI"

poor Sara . . . lying under that car all summer in the rain . . .

????

right, back to this....
 

...the virtual persona you portray. look, I aint perfect, fnc. I do contradictory things, say things that i'll regret later. like a human will. But I'm not foaming at the mouth here. I'm just poking fun... you little crybaby

I like to fool around and make fun...If you can't laugh at yourself, I'm gonna annoy you, sure as shit. so lighten up nancy

Not that I didn't have the balls to ask for neutrality, I just thought it best to PM first. He's just being "sensitive" now.
And I don't know how to quote well.

Peace, doves, pots of gold, leprechauns, unicorns, "little people" riding tricycles and waving at each other. And so the Cellar lived happily ever after.

WUSS !!!
you backed DOWN !!
Stand your ground !!!!!

It doesn't matter since we are the same person. Lumberjim is already a popular user account and a well viewed poster. I'd prefer that account over the latter less popular more hostile one I am currently on.

i meant 'yeah, ok' seriously. you didn't have to post that. i wasn't being sarcastic. hatchet buried.

I never played CS, but I enjoyed de_dust when it was redone for my fav for a while, Ghost Recon 1. Spent many hours there. Somebody did a version for UT2004 but it was no comparison.

Well, UT you don't know what kind of gameplay heaven you are missing.

CS Source is only 20 bucks, and you can even download it and purchase online if your ass is stapled to your chair, like mine and other peoples.

Well I believe it, and I would check it out, but I'm busy taking (or defending) Karkand in BF2.

Auch Lieben. The Germans are a pesky group. I remember my recent days on Company of Heroes. Oh, you were so good to me, Tommy.

I have no idea if that was actually German.

EDIT: Ahem, just read bullying thread buried in relationships. As far as my personal opinion I agree whole heartedly with Aliantha. Thanks to SG suggesting I read it. I'm not going to cave in like Jebo and ask for a handshake though. Stuff happens, attitudes stay static and the Cellar endures.

Dude, speak and argue with those who are worth it... ignore the chaff.

I'm tw, UG, Radar, and TheMercenary.


Jeb, do you have Microsoft Word? Copy and paste to that and then back here to make sure you don't make misstakes.

I'm Spartacus.

I'll finally admit it, I'm also an LJ puppet... a well maintained one by any means, but I just use this account to let loose all my 'inner kid' shit and all my gay fantasies without jinx killing me.

I don't have a problem with SlumberJism, the Cellar's nocturnal emission
He's funny and just poking fun, most of the time. Except when he's acting all pussy-whipped.;)

There's a difference between busting chops and demeaning ridicule. In a serious thread, folks like radar, ug, mercy, and (disappointingly) Bruce call people who disagree with them stupid, foolish, mentally ill and liar. And if you dare to respond in kind, zippy, buster, wolf, jinx, etc pile on, without adding anything of substance.

BTW, Spexxvet is Ducknut's sock puppet. Just rearrange the letters - you'll get it.

Firefox spell check is your friend.

Like right now, its telling me that mistakes only has one "s" :p

Dontcha hate that, every time you bag someone's spelling, you can guarantee to stuff something up yourself.

:eyebrow: You get your arse in that skirt and stockings...then get back to me!

Ah, lovly irony.

Lovely.

Indeeed

I see two. :redface:

lol

Open 24 hours. Not in a ROW. (Stephen Wright)

Your call. I can't fix what I can't see though. I asked in earnest, out of ignorance. The offer stands.

As an aside, the work I do gives me the chance to interact with many many people, everyone in the company (and several outside it). As I do my work, I'm constantly asking for feedback as to how I'm doing, from their perspective. When I complete a task, this short survey is sent by my boss to the person I helped.


How can I improve if I don't know where I am now? To know that I have to ask, and I have to be able to measure it in some way. This is how it works at work for me. I originally asked you about what's not working (what's untrue) in this same spirit. I'm not doggin you, or callin you out, or cross examining you. I'm seeking to improve. I could use your help, please.

BigV, I'm having trouble getting feedback from some of my customers. Mind if I C/P that survey format?

thank you for your sincere interest, Big V. That's all I want. That's all anyone wants, really.

And bagels, futuristic bagels...

bagels = THE WHITE MENACE!

pm coming.

Oh sure, hide the real story.