Who is they?

At this point you are not worth the discussion.

rk, I'm not toying with you. Your statements were vague, and I'm simply asking that you specify.

Yes but Italian grandfather was nagged into it by Italian grandmother.
Spanish men don't take that shit from women.

Illegal immigrants working in the US do not pay taxes.
Sure, if they buy some groceries, they may pay some on those, but not taxes on their pay, property etc, like legal Americans.
Living here illegally does not make you an American, even if it is for 20 years.
I know this, I paid one guy, under one SSI card, for twenty people's work, they lived in undocumented residences, bought as little as possible and sent every dime they could out of the country.
Every place I worked with illegals worked this way, agriculture, every form of construction, the distillery, etc.

Yes, there are illegal immigrants working in the U.S. who do not pay income taxes, just as there are those who do.

Here's an article from the NY Times which helps explain how they pay.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/ny...i=5088&partner

Here's IRS info about ITIN.

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/artic...=96287,00.html

I'm curious about the guy you paid under one SS card--did the company not withhold taxes?

Sure, if they want to be US Citizens, most don't or they would be in the system and known to the IRS.

My examle is clear. Most come here to make money, send it home then leave.

From your article.
If that was the case they would be entering the nation and working legally.

There's simply no way you can know for a fact that "most [illegal immigrants in the entire U.S.] don't" want to be U.S. citizens. But you're entitled to your viewpoint based on your experiences--if most of the immigrants you've worked with told you that they didn't want to be U.S. citizens, I'll take your word for it.

Many do enter legally with visas. For others to our south, the wait to enter legally is 10 years, because our immigrations system is too harsh and full of red tape--they can't make a living in their countries, and 10 years is too damn long to wait to feed their kids. Those with ITINs are working legally.

Boo-fucking-hoo

Their home country being screwed up is not our problem. They should be working to change their own system, not breaking the law here for a free ride.

well put

Hammer hits nail on head. Bam!

Define "free ride" ...

Au contraire. The U.S. wouldn't exist if it weren't for 'home' countries being screwed up. Not only is it our 'problem,' as it always has been from the beginning, it's what's made us what we are.

"has been" and "made" are both past tense - as they should be. Illegal imigrants should be kept out, plain and simple. For they are ruining it for those who try to come through legally. Hence the term Illegal.

Talking french won't win any points... 'cept with me, Morticia.

Mais c'est tres approprié...the French gave us Le Statué de Liberté...:D

Typical of the french to give us an "IKEA" gift that had to be assembled and had no base. Sacré bleu.

Did they also give us French Kissing? If so, did the Greeks just get the left overs?

Ah, for twenty years we kiss the frenchie... then one little Greek, I swear no bigger than my pinkie, and Spex will buttfuck your mouth.

Nice play on a classic punchline? A variation is where the preacher says "I would'na told that!"

Or the story about McGreggor the brick layer... but one goat! just one!

"...but you fuck one goat!"

Ah, good times. My very drunk aunt stood up unannounced and told this joke to a very unamused crowd in the middle of the toasts at her nephew's wedding.

you but fuck one goat!

In the variation, the guy has been called down in fornt of the congregation to confess his sins, and after listing several minor transgressions, with the preacher egging him on, he finally admits "I- I- I had sex with one of my goats..." and the preacher says . . . . . . . "I would'na told that!"