I'm a Cowboys Fan.

You are teh suck.

I know what you meant by that, and frankly, I'm just being pedantic, but doesn't everybody choose their friends based on similar tastes? Not necessairly similar tastes in all things...but some sort of shared reference and commonality of taste/views/opinions etc would surely be useful when making friends?

I changed my mind.


I, for one, am emotional graveyard, and don't care whether or not I have friends. In fact, I have no friends. I rather enjoy speaking at people about things of which I am so knowledgeable, and they are not, they certainly would just have to listen to me edumacate them on all topics of which they are ignorant, which would be, well, all topics.

And I certainly would not want to chat it up with some douchebag that went to the same fabulous concert that I attended. That's ricockulous.

Not at all... in fact I am often attracted to people with different tastes than myself. I see it as an opportunity to learn and be exposed to a different point of view.
On the other hand, I used to really dislike country music... I now have a large collection of older, American Roots Music, much of which is early country which a new friend taught me to appreciate properly.
This is after growing-up on a ranch and being exposed to it and hating it for most of my life.
I have friends with VASTLY different political and artistic views, that watch television programs religiously that you could not chain me in front of without my asking you to take a bribe to stop...
I just don't see the connection.
For me it is more about how people express themselves, the ideas about respect and if they are interesting or not, that is about it.
Two of my best friends are far older than I, deeply religious and have VASTLY different tastes than I. But, I love them with all of my heart and they are more family to me than most I happen to be related to.
Tastes mean nothing and say nothing about who you are.

Gets rid of boggart.

Great, do you think this carries some kind of meaning?
Do you attach real emotion to those who are fans of some other team?

If it is in fun I think that is great, but there are those who will actually not like those who like other teams... those people are simpletons.

Tastes mean a great deal. Doesn't mean you have to share identical tastes with your friends. Many of my friends have different musical tastes and television tastes to me...but there are areas in which we find commonality: maye in politics, maybe simply in communication style. I learn from them and expand my own tastes by interacting with them (I recently developed a taste for jazz music having been introduced to it by a friend). But there will be some area of commonality.

It is not shallow to want to be friends with someone with whom you share interests/opinions or tastes. Nor does it preclude having friends who seemingly share nothing with you.

yOINk!!

I have a wide scope of music that I enjoy from the '50s & up. Not partial to early country - some of the new stuff isn't so bad. A couple of rap songs. But I also like classical music. I like musicals - I've seen Phantom of the Opera & CATS (2). Surely though an individual would have other interests besides music to base friendship. (I'm a Raiders fan) - whats that say.

That you love assholes. ;)

now, this is why i'm so vehement in my skeptecism about your supposed intellect. your mensa this and 'my students' that. If you were really gifted....forget about 170s, you'd have gotten that quip.

can anyone else explain that correlation to him? I don't want to assume that everyone gets it.....but I hafta think at least some of you do.

Where he's from, thems fightin' words.

No, seriously.

Friends of mine own the medical services company that supplies ambulances and EMTs to large sporting events, concerts, and the like.

You do literally take your life into your hands if you wear opposing teamwear in the stadium.

Oh, crap. That was a lot funnier than I thought it was.

It can't be explained, you just hadda be there ...

Of course hating someone for their tastes is stupidity, but commonality is important because it's a very quick way to make a small bond to work from. I admit that when I see someone wearing a Lions shirt at the gym, I'm more prone to look on them in a better light. It's just a natural social bonding thing, probably stemming from some evolutionary imperative. Maybe when we were monkeys all the Lions fans banded together to protect themselves from the Bears... pun intended. But you're right Dana, it shouldn't preclude having friends outside of your normal personality type.

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice:thumb:

I took Pete and the kids to see Bela Fleck and the Flecktones last night. we can still be friends? Lil' Pete asked me, "Why isn't this called the Vic Wooten Band?"


Black and Gold baby!

I'll be your part-time friend for the sake of the music, but I cannot abide those colors!

*sigh* We're good until next weekend then?

Oh, at least

Attaque, Parade, Coup de pointe, Changement de Rythme...

Well- I can't say that I don't discriminate because of music taste. I do have a knee jerk reaction to people that listen to The Insane Clown Posse (aka ICP), get the tattoos, and cover their car with hatchets. I guess that makes me a jerk. But ok. When I see good decent kids sign on to the psycho posse and act like idiots I just have to shake my head and hope it's only a bad phase.
I know I listened to ridiculous music as a kid too-so I try to understand..... But I have to admit, if my peers like them I take another look at who I'm talking to. And I then deeply reconsider.

This one dude forced me to watch an ICP movie; and he was right there, making sure I understood what happened in each scene, and why it was funny/awesome. I can't say that I ever hung out with that dude, ever again.

The only (slightly) amusing thing about ICP is their fake "rap war" with Eminem, and that's just because I'm a big fan of satire.

Flint.Hmmmm....did he try to get you over to his trailer to smoke meth too? Isn't that really why you never hung out again?Or did he try to get you in on a good old fashioned redneck snuff film? Or something to that effect? Maybe I see the love of ICP as a sign of much much greater problems. A symptom of complete dysfunction and the "professed" validation of it.

See? Kneeeeeee jerk. Anything but ICP and the people who are dumb enough to try and make you understand it.

Sorry- I'm such a bit**. But I have never seen the force of stupidity so great as one in an ICP fan.

A crazy man with a hatchet on the back window of my car is cool? Sorry. Not so much.

Call me stupid for staying away from people because of their tastes (Quee). Especially if their tastes include eating puppies.

Your assumptions are valid, in this case.

I propose that there is no "good reason" to be an ICP fan.

I second the motion.

I propose that you, Flint and Cicero are crackheads. I like some of ICP's stuff...that's doesn't mean I'm a total malcontent. :)

lol...not crackhead!

Who the hell is ICP?

There, do you like me more now? Can I be your friend? What if I tell you I'm serious? I seriously have no idea who this clown posse is. I'm gonna assume it's some kind of rap group that tries to be funny.

A hip-hop duo from Detroit.

The ICP thing, and similar... I will say that people who are into groups and stuff to the point of being fanboys and take on identities based on their liking something does put me off. I see it as a sign of mental weakness and just really weird.

What is the "good reason" you have for liking ICP Sycamore?

I find some humor in them. The shit they say is so ridiculous, I can't help but laugh. Having said that, I can't listen to one of their CDs all the way through because it becomes a bit much to me.

They are total satire, but it seems that their fanboys take them way too seriously.
They don't see the joke because they are actually the kind of people being made fun of?

Which reminds me of something else: rap artists flaunting big wads of money on their album cover, when the people buying the album, and listening to the lyrics about how much money the guy has, are actually providing the money! The rap artist must be laughing, because all that money on the album cover is your money! He's rapping about taking your money, in exchange for rapping about taking your money.

Interesting............We were talking about fans Syc.....here's a couple:
http://www.fradical.com/Insane_Clown...k_visitors.htm

Idiots.

Oh, some of the Juggalos are fucking nuts...it's overkill, IMO.

Flint, have you ever since the video for The Roots' "What They Do"? A total parody of hip-hop...very funny.

And I'd argue that the money some rappers throw around is more likely to be the label's money initially.

Whatever the case may be, it's a circular phenomenon. Paying money to listen to a rap about money. Rapping about money, to make money, to rap about the money you made rapping about the money you have, that you made by rapping about having the money.

15 year old kids just buy it up. Its really sad that hip hop is being represented by that shit. The Underground moment is growing but it won't be enough to topple the diluted down fake gangsta/dance rap.

One of my lunatics stalked ICP. Went to their business office and ended up in a nuthouse there, too.

There is a Juggalo's religion site somewhere. I kid you not.
Edit:
http://www.juggalofaith.com/

http://juggapriest-gravy.tripod.com/

http://www.petitiononline.com/12w33d/petition.html

There are more.

Eh. My really close (as in, if I knew I had 20 minutes to live I would call them) friends and I don't necessarily have tastes in common -- we turn each other on to new stuff and sometimes make fun of each other for liking certain bands/movies/tv shows. I like to hear about the different and sometimes (from my POV) wacky stuff that other people are interested in.

On the other hand, as a person with a day job, I get a lot of my socializing at nighclubs and concerts -- meaning that a lot of the people I socialize with like the same kinds of music I like, or they wouldn't be there. Some of the people I've met at these events get to be friends, either of the close variety or (more likely) just people I see around sometimes and stop to have a drink with. Sure, I have met people who agree with me about music but are total assholes otherwise (including one of the best DJs I have ever heard, who is a giant cock in my not-so-humble opinion), but I have also met people through music who turn out to be worthwhile to hang out with in other ways -- just like meeting people through any other interest or hobby.

"1.21 Juggalos!"
"What the hell is a Juggalo?"

The Urban Dictionary, while having numerous entries on the topic, is of absolutely no help here.

my first reply in The Cellar...& I'm all a twitter...
 

Since I've enjoyed a wide range of musical styles for the majority of my years, I have not been too concerned about what another likes or doesn't, a number of other attributes and traits have always weighed in so much more heavily. And I have found that anyone that is working at getting close (really close) to me, looks for me to share what I'm listening to so that she feels she gets to know who I am in one of a number of ways and until the two of us are no longer SO close anymore she always says how much she likes what I'm listening to and, often, introducing her to...now if I can just find a gal who will stick with me for the rest of "this long strange trip I'm on" we will happily continue to enjoy the same music...Also the other folks I usually interact with through the years do not really have music listening as something they will spend time actively pursuing, so, often they are something of "an empty vessel" I appear to end up filling, and since everything I like and listen to is good <grin> they can't help but appreciate the music I like. :footpyth:

I confess my vessel has been filled by a couple of people through the years.

I now try to fill my own. What an incredible journey! ....fumbling toward something good.

anyway, welcome to the cellar night owl.

Welcome, nightowl.

Hullo Nightowl!

I've been thinking about this...

#1: You don't have to like the same music as me, for me to be cool with you, as a person.

But that may have something to do with this:

#2: You don't have to like the same music as me, for me to play in a band with you.

In other words, I will find something to appreciate in any kind of music, just like I will find something to appreciate in any kind of person. I mean, I try. Yeah, it's hard sometimes, but I think this is a way to grow as a person; by expanding your boundaries instead of guarding your limitations.