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TGRR 03-22-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548288)
Wait. We can't do that. We have to bail out the insurance and banking industry. Obama already spent the money we don't have.


Bush, of course, had nothing to do with it.

:lol:

You're such a patsy.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:10 PM

The "rich" already pay the majority of income taxes that support the poor. Maybe you didn't hear.

What's rich anyway?

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548294)
Bush, of course, had nothing to do with it.

Really? That's not what I have read.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548296)
The "rich" already pay the majority of income taxes that support the poor. Maybe you didn't hear.

Yeah, and you wish to do away with that.

Because the rich will be grateful. Or something.

:lol:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:17 PM

No, because everyone will pay their fair share and the loop holes would be eliminated. Pretty obvious you haven't read much about it. You really should try reading some of it and stop getting your information from George Soros and Huffington Post.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548306)
No, because everyone will pay their fair share and the loop holes would be eliminated.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You really ARE a sucker.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:19 PM

For a better tax system? You betcha.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548312)
For a better tax system? You betcha.

Because of course they didn't figure out how to fuck you before they proposed it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, really. Do you know what your tax rate would have to be, if the mode income carried the same rate as the highest income?

Do you even know what the mode income IS these days? Of course you don't. Limbaugh and Boortz told you what to think, and here you are.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:23 PM

Mode is not really all that important in this plan.

BDS 03-22-2009 07:25 PM

So it's a plan now?

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548316)
Mode is not really all that important in this plan.

HAW HAW!

No, mode is only the unadjusted income that most Americans make (as opposed to average income).

No, that would hardly be important under a "fair tax".

:lol:

Silly me, thinking you'd know what "mode" means in the first place.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:27 PM

You are right it is not important. Everyone pays the same, regardless of income. The only fair tax plan is one where everyone pays in equally in relation to the income made.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548321)
You are right it is not important. Everyone pays the same, regardless of income. The only fair tax plan is one where everyone pays in equally in relation to the income made.

So you're basically forcing the middle class into the working class, the working class into the lower class, and the lower class onto the street....And you approve of this rampant buggering you are DEMANDING that you receive, so that Warren Buffet can afford another layer of gold on his yacht.

You're a sheep of the first order, Merc. :lol:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548325)
So you're basically forcing the middle class into the working class, the working class into the lower class, and the lower class onto the street....And you approve of this rampant buggering you are DEMANDING that you receive, so that Warren Buffet can afford another layer of gold on his yacht.

Man you have some serious delusions there. There is no evidence that any of those fantasies you have are going to occur under a fair tax plan.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548330)
Man you have some serious delusions there. There is no evidence that any of those fantasies you have are going to occur under a fair tax plan.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Of course not. The fact that Merc can't do simple math notwithstanding.

:lol:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:37 PM

So far you have posted no math to support your dispute.

BDS 03-22-2009 07:37 PM

Neither have you.
Besides, since when have any government numbers added up?

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 07:38 PM

Neither have you.
Besides, since when did government numbers ever add up?

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:39 PM

Follow the links simpleton.

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 07:41 PM

You didn't answer my question.
Also, maths means squat, quite frankly.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548337)
So far you have posted no math to support your dispute.

The mode income of United States citizens is $19,980/year.

So tell me...what percentage of income would you like to hit with your "fair" tax that would still provide $2.6 trillion per year?

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Simpletoon (Post 548349)
You didn't answer my question.
Also, maths means squat, quite frankly.

If you have another reliable source for data let us all in on it. All numbers are controlled by some body or organization. So the answer to your question is sure they add up. For those adding them. It doesn't mean you have to believe them. Let me get you a tin foil hat to go with your buddy.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:47 PM

...Bearing in mind that every working American's share would be $17,333.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:48 PM

So most working Americans get to try to live on $2,500/yr, so Merc's heroes can crap on solid gold toilets.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548352)
The mode income of United States citizens is $19,980/year.

So tell me...what percentage of income would you like to hit with your "fair" tax that would still provide $2.6 trillion per year?

I guess you never took statistics in college. Mode is a poor indicator when you have such extremes. Like your buddy said, who is going to believe your numbers?

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 07:49 PM

You want to give me a tin foil hat? I'm not the one posting "lol obama" obsessively.

There's a difference between adding up, and making sense, also.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548355)
...Bearing in mind that every working American's share would be $17,333.

you obviously did not read about it.

That's cool.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548357)
I guess you never took statistics in college. Mode is a poor indicator when you have such extremes. Like your buddy said, who is going to believe your numbers?

The BLS, for one, because that's where I got the numbers.

Mode is the ONLY important number, when you consider a flat or "fair" tax, because that's where most of your money will come from.

Have you EVER taken a basic math class? Ever? This is simple division we're talking about here.

But Boortz tells you everything is fine, so it's fine. Right?

:lol:

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548357)
I guess you never took statistics in college. Mode is a poor indicator when you have such extremes. Like your buddy said, who is going to believe your numbers?

Probably approximately the same number that'll believe yours.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548361)
you obviously did not read about it.

That's cool.

You obviously never checked any of the numbers for yourself.

:lol:

Just keep on believing, hippie.

:lol:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548362)
The BLS, for one, because that's where I got the numbers.

Mode is the ONLY important number, when you consider a flat or "fair" tax, because that's where most of your money will come from.

According to whom? You? Now you have not really proven to be a reliable source.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548367)
You obviously never checked any of the numbers for yourself.

:lol:

Just keep on believing, hippie.

:lol:

First a "neocon", now a "hippie". Damm you are fickle bird.

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548372)
First a "neocon", now a "hippie". Damm you are fickle bird.

And you're a Koolaid-guzzling sheep.

Your point?

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548370)
According to whom? You? Now you have not really proven to be a reliable source.

What? You've never heard of the BLS?

http://www.bls.gov

Lightweight.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548374)
And you're a Koolaid-guzzling sheep.

Your point?

A neocon hippie koolaid-guzzling sheep? Wow this just keeps getting better. :lol2:

You are one angry person.

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548372)
First a "neocon", now a "hippie". Damm you are fickle bird.

I just love the way you pick up on the smallest details, while somehow ignoring the obvious questions.

Did they teach you that at school?

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548376)
What? You've never heard of the BLS?

http://www.bls.gov

Lightweight.

I thought you didn't trust the government? So now you are going to quote the stats that you like?

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Simpletoon (Post 548379)
I just love the way you pick up on the smallest details, while somehow ignoring the obvious questions.

Did they teach you that at school?

Naw, he figured that one out watching Rush Limbaugh.

What can you expect?

TGRR 03-22-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548381)
I thought you didn't trust the government? So now you are going to quote the stats that you like?

And your source got its numbers from...oh, yeah, Boortz's ass.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Simpletoon (Post 548379)
I just love the way you pick up on the smallest details, while somehow ignoring the obvious questions.

Did they teach you that at school?

Simple observation. Really not that hard. It comes from the boredom and apathy of reading these posts.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548382)
Naw, he figured that one out watching Rush Limbaugh.

Really? That sounds like a tw quote.

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548384)
Simple observation. Really not that hard. It comes from the boredom and apathy of reading these posts.

And the sheer pain of having your arse OWNED when you try to pass Boortz off as actual journalism.

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548384)
Simple observation. Really not that hard. It comes from the boredom and apathy of reading these posts.

Ah. So why do you still do it?

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548386)
Really?

I call 'em how I see 'em. You're a dittohead.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548383)
And your source got its numbers from...oh, yeah, Boortz's ass.

Really?:3_eyes:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548390)
I call 'em how I see 'em. You're a dittohead.

That another funny one. :lol2:

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548391)
Really?:3_eyes:

Apparently so.

Unless your argument is that Boortz has been meticulously tracking employment information for the last 30 years.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:02 PM

Hey, you enjoy yourselves.

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548392)
That another funny one. :lol2:

It's kinda sad, really.

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548392)
That another funny one. :lol2:

I don't get it.

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548394)
Hey, you enjoy yourselves.

It's okay if you run.

Most of the sissies do.

:)

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548397)
It's okay if you run.

Most of the sissies do.

:)

But... But... We were ganging up on him, obviously.

:lol:

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548397)
It's okay if you run.

Most of the sissies do.

:)

Wait, wait.... wait for it.


Neocon hippie Koolaid-guzzling sheep sissy. Man you got one imagination. You think all that up your self or did someone help you? Just wondering.:D

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Simpletoon (Post 548401)
But... But... We were ganging up on him, obviously.

:lol:

Republicans always whine like that.

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548405)
Wait, wait.... wait for it.


Neocon hippie Koolaid-guzzling sheep sissy. Man you got one imagination. You think all that up your self or did someone help you? Just wondering.:D

Quit your whimpering, Merc. You sound like a sniveling little bitch.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 548407)
Quit your whimpering, Merc. You sound like a sniveling little bitch.

Ooooo a new one! now it is your lable of:


"Neocon hippie Koolaid-guzzling sheep sissy sniveling little bitch"

Man you are on a roll! :D

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548409)
Ooooo a new one! now it is your lable of:


"Neocon hippie Koolaid-guzzling sheep sissy sniveling little bitch"

Man you are on a roll! :D

Jesus fucking Christ. And I thought you had a spine. And a brain, briefly.

TheMercenary 03-22-2009 08:12 PM

It really is great entertainment. Really.

Sir_Simpletoon 03-22-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548413)
It really is great entertainment. Really.

Ah. Isn't there sumfink on the TeeVee?

TGRR 03-22-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 548413)
It really is great entertainment. Really.

You could also go out behind your trailer and watch the bug zapper. :)


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