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I'm amused that so many anti-Obama- |
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Not always meaningless (i.e. Nelson Mandela), but F. W. De Klerk can be added to the Arafat, Kissinger questionable list of winners. |
I really don't care, because it(Nobel Prize) has become irrelevant. But I do care about the world hug. I get the heeby geebies thinking about the STDs that crowd would transmit.
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??? I haven't seen anyone blaming Obama. There are many who don't think it is/was deserved, but no one actually blaming him.
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I don't think any of those was a slap in the face to George W. Bush. All of these men did a lot to earn their Nobel Prizes, especially Al Gore for exposing that man-made global warming isn't a theory, an idea, a concept, or as idiots claim.... a fraud, a hoax, etc. Man-made global warming is an indisputable scientific fact. It is an undeniable and irrefutable truth that we must take drastic action to fix, or face our own destruction. Contrary to what some idiots claim, Barack Obama actually has done a lot to promote peace in the world through what he's already done in such a short time. Merely reversing the horrific foreign policy of the Bush administration should earn him this, but ordering the closure of Gitmo, coming out against the use of torture for interrogation, ending the Iraq war, and bringing home or re-assigning most of the troops that were there, choosing to talk with other nations rather than telling them to comply or get sanctions and bombs, etc. The actions of President Obama promote peace both here and abroad, including his valuable work on health care reform in America. The true colors of these scumbag neocons really shows when the President of America wins the Nobel Peace Prize and rather than saying, "Hooray, a sitting American president won the single most prestigious, important, and meaningful honor on earth!!!" and being happy for America, they talk shit about him. They did the same thing when he tried to bring the Olympics to America, including the thousands of jobs, billions of dollars, international prestige and good will, etc. They hoped that another country would get it and cheered when America didn't. Clearly these idiots hate President Obama more than they love America. They are like the so-called Palestinian people who hate Jews more than they love their own children. They'd cut off their nose just to spite their face. They are bitter, nasty, pathetic, and unpatriotic losers. |
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Thanks Shawnee. These guys want President Obama fail at anything so badly, they don't care whether America loses, as long as he loses too.
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I've said that all along. To me, that is the ultimate in illness, that being right is more important than hoping this will be the best thing for our country, for our progeny, for us. No, we'd rather see "fail" because we get to say "I told you so." Sad, is what that attitude is.
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Rewarding someone for reversing failed policies isn't a slap in the face of the person who made the failed policies. It is merely kudos to the person who got us back on the right track. In this case, it's kudos to the person who is taking steps to make less enemies, to calm existing enemies caused by the previous administration, and to take a more reasonable and intelligent approach to foreign relations. In other words, the Nobel Peace Prize went to a deserving person who has taken real steps toward increasing World Peace. |
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If someone would be kind enough to tell me...
Is there anyone (anyone at all) who thinks this was a good idea? I mean, they were ripping him a new asshole on the day this was announced--and that was on NPR! |
So far as I can tell, there's me, Shawnee, and Radar who think it was.
From what I've seen in the news, Obama's diplomatic efforts thus far have already gone a long way to repairing the damage that Bush and his administration had inflicted on the world. He's been spending a lot of time overseas talking with various people, and apparently, it's made a great impression. There's really no reason I can think of not to be happy about it. |
Haven't you heard?
When Obama went over there, they said, Look Dude, don't be greedy, it's either the Olympics or Nobel Prize, you can't have both. Obama said, Fuck Chicago, show me the money. :lol2: |
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All of that is true and some of what Obama ha done have made positive changes in the world view. He was nominated a long time ago and that is the only issue I have. What exactly was he nominated for at that point in time, not the current one.
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Sigh. Please, by all means, continue :bitching: |
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I, and many others, including the Nobel Prize committee think it was a good idea. President Obama deserved the honor for the work he's already done to promote peace throughout the world. It not only honors the work he's done, it will keep the world's attention on him to ensure that he keeps his promises for further change in America's long failed foreign policy. It will keep President Obama's feet to the fire. |
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And so he has. "The most or best work..." Didn't say y'all had to like the work.
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While I still think it is a stretch, I can see compelling reasons for the award.
In the past, it has often been based on policies and promises rather than results and a strong case can be made that Obama's campaign promises and early policies promoted a set of values that certainly meet the objectives of the award. I further agree with Radar that the mocking of the award by many on the right, like the cheering when Chicago lost the Olympic bid, serves no purpose other than to pander to the conservative republican base. |
You mean the critics are playing......... wait for it.................... base-ball. :rolleyes:
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There's been as much mocking from the center and left, and I'm not sure it's true that such mockery is only disingenuous when it emits from the right. The mockery is directed at the selection committee, less so at Obama.
The squirrelly selection process exhibited by the Nobel Peace Prize selection committee over the years, decades actually, has served to render the award virtually meaningless. This becomes particularly graphic when you review the resumes of those who weren't selected in a given year. Obama ought not receive criticism in that there is no evidence he sought or lobbied for this award. Underscoring the mockery, regardless of from whence it comes on the political spectrum, is growing resentment of the way virtually everything is becoming politicized and thereby rendered meaningless. Where have you gone, Joe Dimaggio? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you... America, and the rest of the world, needs and seeks heroes. Unfortunately, we can remove "Nobel Peace Prize" from the list of potential identifiers. |
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"There's no crying in baseball" Nor should there be childish whining when the other team (and the league as a whole) wins. Or cheering when the other team (and the league) lose (the olympic bid) to a foreign team. |
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The childish and petulant mocking has been much more limited. |
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Nice speeches and vaporware are nice, but that's what politicians do. When the same guy that made that "great impression" does something like snub the Dalai Lama to appease the Chinese, are we supposed to think this is champion of human rights? It makes me think, maybe he should have gotten a prize for writing great-sounding speeches... |
but he didn't write them Flint.
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I'd like to end world hunger, bring about world peace, find homes for all the orphaned puppies and kittens and all the little chirruns, too.
Nominations for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize are due in by February 1, 2010. PM me for last name and other required information. |
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Joke? I was quite serious.
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Until someone offers to actually nominate you! Then you're askeered! :)
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How could I fail to be nominated with good intentions such an end to world hunger, a world at peace, and homes for orphaned puppies, kittens, and children.
You underestimate how much Norwegians like puppies. |
You aren't Obama!
Sorry shaw, I couldn't resist. |
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Psst - The Nobel Foundation is based in Sweden, not Norway. You have to know that to win.;) |
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I'm up for the Nobel Brouhaha Prize.
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Yabbut, didn't he read something about goats, once? Where's tw? :)
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"It is also unclear why Nobel wished the Peace Prize to be administered in Norway. The Norwegian Nobel Committee speculates that Norway may have been better suited to awarding the prize as it did not have the same militaristic traditions as Sweden and that at the end of the nineteenth century the Norwegian parliament had become closely involved in the Inter-Parliamentary Union's efforts to resolve conflicts through mediation and arbitration." This explains why I have Albert Einstein's support for the award and you do not. Hah! |
http://nobelprize.org/nobelfoundatio...org_090915.pdf
Stockholm. That be in Sweden, no? Of course, I wouldn't want to cast aspersions at Wikipedia! |
There are many Nobel prizes, of course - economics, science, etc. - and the overall Nobel Foundation is in Sweden, but the Peace Prize selection committee operates out of Norway.
"All Nobel Prizes are awarded in Stockholm, Sweden, except for the Nobel Peace Prize, which is awarded in Oslo, Norway." http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...hortfacts.html |
Ahhh, jase, now I see.
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I wouldn't belabor the point except to the extent that I've received an inside tip that the selection committee is impressed with multiple nominations of the same individual or organization. I wouldn't want you mailing your nomination of me to the wrong city.
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Yea, from what I have heard Hamid Karzai was Obama's campaign manager to win the nomination for the Peace Prize. Maybe that is why he is waiting so long to send those needed troops to Afghanistan...
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What ARE you smokin', dude? |
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:D ok, that's one thing. What else? :)
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"Just to fuck with conservatives, Obama should give the Nobel Prize money to ACORN."--Lee Papa (The Rude Pundit)
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