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infinite monkey 09-12-2013 02:19 PM

I don't know what it is, but it's seems differnt this year. I might understand the rules and the penalties and the plays and stuff like "you should try for a home run if it's like, 4th and inches" but I'm not all algorithmically inclined. I grew up living and breathing the best game on earth, but this is beyond me. I know it's just for funsies but I'm naturally competitive and I'm realizing the FF league has moved beyond my realm. I'd never make it in the big leagues,where folks pay a bunch of money and study the stats and projections. I don't mind losing but i really hate being the complete moron. ;)

Perhaps my current temperament and state of fog is confusing me.

BigV 09-12-2013 02:33 PM

the study of the stats and money, etc. is the main premise of the movie Moneyball starring Brad Pitt. I enjoyed the movie immensely.

infinite monkey 09-12-2013 02:40 PM

I saw that available for sale, and on sale as a 'used' copy and I'd really like to see it. I'll go look for it again.

jimhelm 09-12-2013 02:44 PM

there do seem to be a lot of sneaky tabs at the tops of frames that change the view..... like the game center: I'm used to going there and seeing my guys on the left, my opponent on the right... this year, I go there, and by default, I see the newspaper article thing... I have to go to the 'simple box score' tab to see it the way I like.

infinite monkey 09-12-2013 02:46 PM

I'll look for that, thanks! :)

glatt 09-12-2013 02:52 PM

Seems like the available players suck more this year too. Or maybe I didn't snatch up the good ones fast enough.

infinite monkey 09-12-2013 02:56 PM

I think I was a bad drafter. It all sort of fell into place in previous years: not stellar teams but not gawdawful teams either.

It's my fault for being a draft dodger.

Of course it's way early in the season and a lot can happen. Hone. I shall hone my team.

GO RATS!

(Besides, my helmet is the coolest, thanks to jim.) :)

jimhelm 09-12-2013 03:32 PM

yours IS the coolest.

there are 2 more teams this year, and we have 2 more starting spots than most leagues, so our rosters are larger.

bye weeks make for change. be patient. it's a long season.

lumberjim 09-13-2013 08:58 AM

Nice move grabbing eddelman, tone. He's the only one that can catch on the Pats this year, it seems. 13 catches? Nice.

I was gonna grab him, but I went with hankerson. Seemed like rg3 likes him. I also picked up geno Smith last week. Boy. He sucks.

Undertoad 09-13-2013 09:55 AM

Yeah it turns out all the Pats' TEs are banged up right now so they are limited on personnel with good hands.

If I win this week, I'ma win out, so you people got to start hating on me ASAP.

Gino Smith could still come around... first few games of the season are always weird

glatt 09-13-2013 09:59 AM

Yay! I got an award!

"The Week 1 Poor Lineup Decisions Trophy goes to Ruff Riders for leaving 136.2 points on the bench."

infinite monkey 09-13-2013 10:12 AM

No WAY! That beats even ME!

I still don't know about Ponder. He's an enigma, a mystery wrapped in pigskin. I mean...who really IS this "Ponder"?

I guess I'll keep him. Remaining QBs are all like Pollyanna Pancake and Little Lord Fauntleroy, and they just don't sound like good picks.

Griff 09-13-2013 06:43 PM

Well played Sir! ;)

jimhelm 09-15-2013 02:03 PM

Damn, I wish I had Dez Bryant this year. He is killing it.

Aaron Rodgers is going off the redskins. W00t!

lumberjim 09-16-2013 02:18 PM

Good Game Glatt

glatt 09-16-2013 02:35 PM

good game, lumberjim

Griff 09-16-2013 07:03 PM

Nail biter with the River Rats!

infinite monkey 09-17-2013 09:08 AM

Unreal, Griff. 3 Points. I didn't expect to win at all whe I read up on Antonio Brown, but the steelers were way out of sync with each other last night. Good game!

Griff 09-17-2013 07:58 PM

Thanks, Congrats!

jimhelm 09-19-2013 04:20 PM

GAME ON TONIGHT!

iggles v chefs



great googly moogly


are you ready?

lumberjim 09-22-2013 10:45 PM

I think you've got me this week, Griff. 5.3 points will probably not be enough to hold off your TE, with Peyton throwing to him.

Btw, Antonio Brown is an asshole.

Griff 09-23-2013 05:30 AM

He'll be glad to hear that. :) He is the only badass left on the Steelers now. Gonna be a long winter. Thomas better have some yardage, otherwise leaving 30 TE points on the bench doesn't look so smrt. I just have a hard time believing in a Brown. Looks like your wideouts are letting you down.

lumberjim 09-23-2013 07:11 AM

Yeah. .. Chris Johnson hasn't exactly been lighting it up either. I picked the wrong packer wr this week, and was thinking about starting santonio Holmes, but. .. he's a jet.... hindsight.

There was an option this year where you could sub one player after the games were played but I didn't select that. I thought about it, but then some of us don't really pay that close attention to it during the season, and I thought that might cause some bad mojo.

glatt 09-23-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 876742)
There was an option this year where you could sub one player after the games were played but I didn't select that. I thought about it, but then some of us don't really pay that close attention to it during the season, and I thought that might cause some bad mojo.

That might have helped me. I left a ton of points on the bench again this week. I suck at picking these guys. But I'm a hell of a lot better than the Guru.

Griff 09-24-2013 05:59 AM

I think the bench is part of what makes it interesting. Committing to a player based on your gut instinct about how their team matches up adds some tension to the day. Of course my gut says Cleveland sucks so I'll overcome that and play the TE just in time for that house of cards to fall.

lumberjim 09-24-2013 09:30 AM

The guru is especially wacky this week. Projecting 14 points for jacoby Jones, who is injured, and 15.6 for Romo, who should light the chargers up for 50+. Also, my kicker, henery slated for 21, has averaged 8.3 per game through 3 games.

Good close game, Griff. It's amazing how close these games have been, given our unconventional scoring system.

lumberjim 09-25-2013 07:14 PM

Bye weeks start this week. Check your line ups

Griff 09-29-2013 11:04 AM

C'mon Troop! Bring it.

lumberjim 09-30-2013 07:11 AM

Whew. Glad I'm not playing shaw this week.

I might eek out a win over Spencer, depending on what goes on tonight. I don't know who is gonna beat ute this year.... maybe manning will cool off. Maybe it will rain beer.
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infinite monkey 09-30-2013 09:20 AM

Wow. I can't believe my score. That was fun. ;)

Good game, p-zone.

glatt 09-30-2013 09:29 AM

Holy cow, Shaw!

Looks like I might break out of 12th place and into 11th. Watch out everybody, here I come!

Undertoad 09-30-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

maybe manning will cool off. Maybe it will rain beer.
I would take that exchange.

lumberjim 09-30-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 877725)
Wow. I can't believe my score. That was fun. ;)

Good game, p-zone.

He was actually just in my office lamenting his teams lack of performance.

Seemed like all of your players had banner days.

infinite monkey 09-30-2013 10:32 AM

It was a fluke, but a fun fluke.

Clodfobble 09-30-2013 04:38 PM

Hmm. I still have one player left to play tonight.


He's a kicker. And I need 57.6 points.


Oh yeah, I'm totally gonna pull this off. This is the underdog story of the season, Chasers, so get ready for your soul-crushing defeat.

Griff 09-30-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 877732)
It was a fluke, but a fun fluke.

Holy Carp! I thought I was having a good week...

lumberjim 09-30-2013 10:09 PM

Meanwhile Spencer is in striking distance. Only down by 19 with a quarter to go

infinite monkey 10-01-2013 09:37 AM

you pulled it out though.

I got 2 awards this week:

The Black Flag award for outscoring my projected points by 180.8.

And the Most Satisfying Player for starting Phillip Rivers.

I'm bragging because it's been so long since I've done anything right (not just FF I'm talking about) I thought I'd take a sec and revel in these small and irrelevent accomplishments. Better than a kick in the pants. ;)

But I need to keep on it because Spence is slated to beat me this week by a kajillion points!

glatt 10-01-2013 09:45 AM

The Rats were very impressive.

Clodfobble 10-01-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Oh yeah, I'm totally gonna pull this off. This is the underdog story of the season, Chasers, so get ready for your soul-crushing defeat.

My kicker only got me 5 more points! I can only blame my loss on blatant nepotism on the part of the judges.




(Nice job, Amanda! ;))

lumberjim 10-01-2013 12:18 PM

She only left 7 points on the bench, too. That will boost her coach rating.

lumberjim 10-03-2013 11:36 PM

Shaw, your luck continues. ... your qb tore his knee up last night. Looked serious.

Weeden came in and got the win, but he looked shaken. Buffalo has a pretty aggressive pass rush, and he was constantly running away from, but right AT the pursuit. .. like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Then again. ... he does throw deep to Josh Morgan... maybe he just wasn't ready because he got no reps. He was just coming off an ankle injury, so he probably hadn't taken a snap for 3 weeks.

EJ Manuel got hurt too. Also a knee. His was hyper extended and twisted, but I think Hoyer tore ligaments. (Season ender)

So, your boy Tuel might be a good acquisition. Depends on how long EJ will rehab. Or Weeden if you think he'll settle down after a long week following the Thurs game. The available qbs all blow.

Who had EJ?

lumberjim 10-03-2013 11:44 PM

Glatt did.

But he was riding the pine.

WR Steve Johnson hurt his back though, and he was starting for glatt.

Rough game.

infinite monkey 10-03-2013 11:49 PM

Not sure, forgot to follow it tonight but i did get the text from NFL.com that Hoyer got hurt.

Sorry Brian Hoyer. Twere my bad karma that hurt yer leg, or whatever. I pick Tuel back up and he'll die in a plane crash or something.

Griff 10-04-2013 05:30 AM

I start the Cleveland kid and it bites me in the...

lumberjim 10-04-2013 07:10 AM

You sat Thomas against the Cowboys? Are you daft man? Did you see what Gates did to them last week? Never sit Thomas again. He's top 5 at the end of the year or i don't know diddly.


.... barring injury of course.

... and I reserve the right to not know diddly even if he is 1st among TE.

glatt 10-04-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 878526)
WR Steve Johnson hurt his back though, and he was starting for glatt.

Rough game.

I hope he gets better. He was one of my better players, and my team needs all the help it can get.

lumberjim 10-06-2013 09:32 PM

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Wow. Romo outscored Manning. 99.3 to a paltry 97.6

I'm amazed at how close our games are each week, considering how our scoring is turned up to 11.

zippyt 10-06-2013 10:08 PM

TROOP TROOP TRoop troop !!??!!

glatt 10-07-2013 09:29 AM

Troop! Looks like you'll have this one.

Clodfobble 10-07-2013 05:39 PM

Holy crap, Tony broke 300 this week. Nice job!

jimhelm 10-07-2013 06:40 PM

cork soaker got 325 last week, yo.

Undertoad 10-07-2013 10:32 PM

5-0 baby

infinite monkey 10-08-2013 08:18 AM

he got 325 two weeks in a row. my measly win this week didn't net me the 350 i got last week but i won. good game, spence.

interesting to look at the league standings. goats and bullies close for 2nd in league...my meager nudged me back to 4th. for now. bwaahaaa.

Undertoad 10-13-2013 07:05 PM

Dang, this week all my guys go quiet, and now I need double digits out of my TE tomorrow to beat Troop!

My TE has gone double digits the last 4 weeks, so this can happen, but dang it's gonna be close.

lumberjim 10-13-2013 10:42 PM

Clod, I just realized that your tight end is on injured reserve. That probably means he is out for the year. You need to get a new one. You could keep Owen Daniels in your reserve spot. I don't know if he's coming back.

Close game. Two of my guys got hurt early in the games.

Griff 10-14-2013 06:38 AM

Unless Luck goes over 87pts goats are falling this week so Bullies will grab #2. Brown dropped one in the end zone yesterday, not that I'm pointing fingers.

glatt 10-14-2013 07:16 AM

This game is as complicated and time consuming as you are willing to make it. I thought I was being all smart when I dropped one poor player and replaced him with someone who had really been on the rise, points wise. And it wasn't until after the trade was processed that I realized that the reason the new guy had been on the rise was that his teammate was injured, and so he was getting play time. Teammate just got better, and so my new guy is back to the bench, and worthless to me. You have to read EVERYTHING.

infinite monkey 10-14-2013 08:23 AM

I liken setting up your team each week to practicing in real sports. If your team is lazy at 'practice' then you shouldn't win (leaving injured players in, players with byes that week, etc.)

Which is, of course, different than 'practicing' but overlooking a key element in your practices, as glatt pointed out you can miss so much, and things turn on a dime. This is where 'skill' (i.e. paying attention) can help but you can't foresee everything. To me, this is what makes it challenging and fun.

As a 'coach' I wouldn't advise another coach to watch their roster AFTER my team has played them. Seems sneaky. However, seems fair this week to say BigV watch your roster next week for injured reserves and byes. I need to get ahead of certain teams in overall points, and your participation next week could help me in this matter. Thanks buddy (does that clicky noise winky thing.) Good game this week though you didn't practice much. ;)

Griff 10-14-2013 08:27 AM

I like the random element of the thing. Even if you take the time to set things up, the real life coach may want to get a different player going and just like that you're out in the cold.


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