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Elspode 06-16-2004 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Your penis is a libertarian?:haha:
I can see the bumper sticker now:

"My penis is a Libertarian, and my penis VOTES!"

russotto 06-16-2004 08:40 AM

I would do: Probably around 60-70%, going on looks alone and erring (if at all) on the side of low standards. This isn't that many, though, as most of the people I deal with day to day are of the wrong sex (*sigh*).

Would do me: None.

Sycamore: I believe him. Philadelphia is an ugly city, particularly on public transportation.

breakingnews 06-16-2004 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore
You're in NYC now, eh?
That I am. A New Jersey native transplanted to Manhattan - I am a living cliche. Now I work for the AP, the mother of all news companies out there. I don't do nearly as much as I did at the Courier Times, but I somehow feel more ... important. :)

Basically I write about 40 or 50 200-300-word spot news briefs every day. And when I'm not writing I stare at my boss' ass, which is incredibly firm and beautiful. And the woman who sits next to me, who has enormous knockers. I would totally nail both of them, preferably at the same time.

Once again, this morning on the subway I sat across from an incredibly hot woman with no ring on her finger ... but it didn't look like she was going to work, just shopping on 5th ave. Hrm.

Catwoman 06-16-2004 10:36 AM

Fancy giving some career advice breakingnews? I'm considering a change of career - want to become a writer (freelance), news/articles/reviews etc. Any tips? (That said tips not tits. Tips. Hello? Stop staring at her!)

lumberjim 06-16-2004 10:41 AM

he'll give you a tip, and if you don't like it, he promises to take it out.

breakingnews 06-16-2004 10:59 AM

Sick, very sick, LJ.

Kind of reminds of that line ... "You got any chinese in ya? You want some?"

Anyway, career advice? Just get out there and do it. Be willing to work anywhere and do anything, especially if you're only breaking into the journalism business and don't have much experience.

Best way, in my opinion, is to freelance for bigger local newspapers. If you're fortunate enough to string for a larger publication, you'll undergo the same editing and advising as a staff writer, which is something you need to become familiar with early on. If you prove your ability, they'll even start calling you to cover the big stories when the regular beat reporters can't go.

Smaller pubs are great for getting published, but typically they're understaffed and will likely run your copy untouched, which isn't always a great thing for trying to improve.

All writing starts from the basics, which I think is newspaper writing. Once you're comfortable with that, then start approaching magazines and newsweeklies, or get your hands into whatever it is that you want to do.

lumberjim 06-16-2004 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by breakingnews
Sick, very sick, LJ.


i thought you might appreciate that. it IS the sexuality thread. just trying to head off an imminent threadjacking.

Catwoman 06-16-2004 11:07 AM

Thanks, bn. Lj, I'm ignoring you ;)

I don't think I want to work for a paper - or be a journalist as such. I want to work for myself. Think I am more drawn to the idea of writing whatever I want, without criticism, in my spare time, on a beach, gaining rave literary reviews and earning shitloads for it.

Btw didn't mean to turn the thread into a 'lets-talk-about-meee' opportunity. Back to the topic at hand. What percentage of people who you do want to fuck do you think you have a chance with? And this is different from the how-many-people-would-want-to-sleep-with-me question - look at it as your rejection quotient.

jaguar 06-16-2004 11:10 AM

Depends how/when/why you meet them really doesn't it?

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gaining rave literary reviews and earning shitloads for it.
I hear having a fatwah issued against you can help raise your profile ;) (I'm a huge rushdie fan, just couldn't help that one)

Catwoman 06-16-2004 11:28 AM

I'm trying for one over in the philosophy corner... :rolleyes:

SteveDallas 06-16-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by breakingnews
And when I'm not writing I stare at my boss' ass, which is incredibly firm and beautiful. And the woman who sits next to me, who has enormous knockers. I would totally nail both of them, preferably at the same time.
Do they read your Cellar posts?? :angel:

breakingnews 06-16-2004 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Catwoman
Thanks, bn. Lj, I'm ignoring you ;)

I don't think I want to work for a paper - or be a journalist as such. I want to work for myself. Think I am more drawn to the idea of writing whatever I want, without criticism, in my spare time, on a beach, gaining rave literary reviews and earning shitloads for it.

I think ... there are very few people in this world that inherently write well. One is a journalism professor/friend from college who won a Pulitzer for her coverage of the civil war in the Philippines. She claims writing is a torturous process for her, but she will write, off the top of her head, 500 words of the most concise, brilliant, mind-blowing prose I have ever read.

Even if you don't want to work for a newspaper, I strongly recommend writing freelance for some periodical, just as practice. It will teach you a) how to structure editorial pieces, and b) how to approach your topics in different ways. I'm not a huge fan of ESPN.com's Page 2 or 3 because they let their columnists write 3,000 words of incomprehensible shit (Hunter Thompson included). Short and simple writing has been proved time and time again to be the most effective way of getting attention and, subsequently, a fan following. Then as an artist you can fill in the gaps with flowery language.

That will be especially helpful for reviews - good ones require a certain knack for compression without losing catchy language. And if you begin a rant with a 400-word introduction about *why* you're writing that rant, I promise I won't read it. :P

breakingnews 06-16-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by SteveDallas

Do they read your Cellar posts?? :angel:

I hope not. But I think they can see in my eyes (and in the saliva trickling from the corner of my mouth) the pervertedness that my 23-year-old self has for older women. Especially women in the workplace. Grr baby.

jaguar 06-16-2004 01:12 PM

So did you do a straight journo course? How did you end up working for AP? I'm moving in a similar direction and curious to see how you did it.

Catwoman 06-17-2004 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by breakingnews


I think ... there are very few people in this world that inherently write well.


I fink I is defnininantly one of those peepols.

breakingnews 06-30-2004 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
So did you do a straight journo course? How did you end up working for AP? I'm moving in a similar direction and curious to see how you did it.
Uh ... weird ... this thread (and some others) just "refreshed" themselves on my new messages search. Damn web tech.

Sllooooow day on the wires ... very active this morning with all the Fed interest-rate hike excitement, but now it's dribbled down to nothingness. Amazing how one-quarter of a percent creates such a temporary brou-ha-ha.

To answer your question ... I actually graduated from college in '03 with a business degree, but I spent all my time and energy working at the newspaper, which is why I decided to go into the field. I took a few journo classes, allied myself with a good professor-friend and found myself starting out in biz journalism right after graduation.

My advice to those looking to get into the news business: Freelance a lot, become good friends with a higher-up editor and, most importantly, specialize in a topic. Biz j is really hot right now ... I got hired to AP's natl biz staff with only 1 year of experience because of my business degree and experience covering public companies in Philly.

ladysycamore 06-30-2004 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I hope Rho sees this thread. :cool:
I "seent" it, and here I be. :D

Ok so how many ppl would I like to get busy with? Nobody in this town, for sure. Back home in MD...well I really couldn't put a percentage on it...it would be really low anyway.

As far as who would "do" me: I have no clue. Honestly, I always have found it a nice surprise to even find out if someone wanted to do the nasty with me.

Now, if the question was how many people have you fallen head over heels (been infatuated) with...oh geez. Wayyyyy to many! :p

marichiko 06-30-2004 04:19 PM

Oh well, better late than never. I guess I must be incredibly picky because I'd say that only 3 or 4 guys out of a hundred that I might meet turn me on. Well, maybe I should retract that. When I'm not in a relationship with someone, I suppose that would go up to 15 or 20. I seem to have this sort of unconscious self-censoring fidelity thing going for myself that helps to keep my life simpler and uncomplicated when I'm with someone versus the the times when I'm unattached.;)

MaggieL 07-01-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore

Ok so how many ppl would I like to get busy with? Nobody in this town, for sure.

Poor Sycamore. :-)

(Yes, I do poke my head in here once in a while great while.)

blue 07-01-2004 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by MaggieL


Poor Sycamore. :-)

OH

MY

GOD!

:D

ladysycamore 07-01-2004 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by blue


OH

MY

GOD!

:D

Mkaaayyyy, I must have missed the joke.

Surely you guys didn't think I meant Sycamore in the "nobody in this town". :confused:

I would think that would make him quite happy. ;)

lumberjim 07-01-2004 04:33 PM

i think blue was OMGing maggie's cameo

richlevy 07-01-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Elspode


I can see the bumper sticker now:

"My penis is a Libertarian, and my penis VOTES!"

You missed your chance. If you had been at Plastic Forks, you could have had that as a bumper sticker.

elSicomoro 07-01-2004 08:53 PM

Eh, I don't remember you breaking the machine out.

wolf 07-02-2004 11:40 AM

I remember seeing him taking it back to the car, I think?

We were too busy eating.

Hey, I've got it ... Party at Rich's to make bumperstickers!!!

breakingnews 07-02-2004 12:17 PM

I wish girls here in NYC would wear bumper stickers on their asses or large neon signs over their heads signifying if they have boyfriends (or if they have boyfriends but still like to fuck around).

I've recently noticed that being single here in the city is almost not cool. I discussed with some friends, who all agree, even the handful who are in relationships. I meet tons of people every day and plenty of women with whom I'd love to get in the sack (or at least into the bathroom), but 95% of the time they're taken. At work there is endless talk about "my boyfriend this" and "my boyfriend that", and the timeless "last night my boyfriend tried this new toy on me ..." Sickening.

Am I doing something wrong? Or am I only meeting the taken ones because they're less afraid of being outgoing and friendly?

It's frustrating - all I want is a little reckless 23-year-old behavior, but that doesn't even happen because too many women are latched to their dumb effin' boyfriends from college. Four girls I met Wed night were somewhat flirtatious and outgoing - until three of them, after 2 or 3 drinks EACH, tell me they have guys waiting at home. The fourth ditched my ass for some greasy jewish dude with a big nose. Man, I suck. :(

But yeah, I would have porked all four of them. At the same time, if possible. And about 10 other women I saw at the bar too.

OnyxCougar 07-02-2004 03:04 PM

BN, you got a pic posted somewhere?

MaggieL 07-02-2004 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore

Surely you guys didn't think I meant Sycamore in the "nobody in this town". :confused:

Of course not....but that didn't stop me from joking about it.

I'm taking an alcohol prep and some kleenicies to the polls next time, in case I end up with a machine that was used by one of those voting penises.

Catwoman 07-05-2004 09:03 AM

Onyx and BN, up a tree, ****i n g ...!

Sun_Sparkz 07-05-2004 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by breakingnews
Am I doing something wrong?


:o

BN, maybe your trying TOO hard, i mean girls aren't stupid, and we know when a guy is only buying us a drink or engaging in conversation with us just to get one thing out of us.

It doesnt make us feel special when some guy is hitting on you when you know he would hit on just about any other alright looking chick. Try just being friendly and only a little interested,, give the girls a challenge!

xoxoxoBruce 07-05-2004 11:19 PM

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Try just being friendly and only a little interested,, give the girls a challenge!
In other words, you have to play games. :rolleyes:

Sun_Sparkz 07-05-2004 11:23 PM

Well, when you put it like that.. it sounds bad.

i'm just giving advice from my experiences.. if you think a guy is a a genuinely nice guy, and not just some guy out looking for sex on a stick, then your more likely to proceed with some action.

OnyxCougar 07-06-2004 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Catwoman
Onyx and BN, up a tree, ****i n g ...!

I prefer to do my talking in a person generally, over chai creme frappaccinos.

:smashfrea

breakingnews 07-06-2004 11:38 AM

If I'm trying at all, I'm trying too hard. I'm possibly the nicest guy out there (so I've been told). It's just ... I dunno ... I'd like to be able to get out there and do the pick-up thing without coming off as either a desperate sleezebag or a total fruit.

That's not even my point (I think my post came out all wrong). It was supposed to be an observation that lately I am SURROUNDED by couples in this fucking city. And all people do is talk about their other halves. Even a good friend of mine, who's generally really cool and fun to be around, can't help but talk endlessly about going to her boyfriend's place in "the Hamptons" every weekend and doing whatever it is that they do out there. Like a pyschological extension of the PDA thread that you started.

On that note, last night on the train back to NYC, I was surrounded on three sides by couples. The married couple to my left was very decent (gosh the woman was hot); the other two couples, on the other hand, were totally out of control. The two to my right had their legs entangled, while the guy conspicuously tucks his hand under her shirt and kind of down into the ass/crotch region. In 10 minute intervals, he would lean over and give her a peck on the cheek ... before she grabbed his head and started an all-out, three-minute, spit-swapping tongue hocket session.

I couldn't see the couple behind me, but I could hear them. Isn't that enough to say it's too much?

breakingnews 07-06-2004 11:39 AM

Oh, I have a pic on the internet somewhere. Must stir the pot to see if it will surface.

xoxoxoBruce 07-06-2004 05:59 PM

:blush:

hot_pastrami 07-06-2004 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by breakingnews
Oh, I have a pic on the internet somewhere. Must stir the pot to see if it will surface.

Is this the picture you're thinking of?

Sun_Sparkz 07-06-2004 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by breakingnews
On that note, last night on the train back to NYC, I was surrounded on three sides by couples.


When i was Car hunting, it seemed like every second car i saw on the street was the Mitsubishi Lancer i wanted.

When i broke up with my last boyfriend, it seemed like everywhere i went - i thought i saw him.

Sometimes if something is bothering you, or is an issue in your life then ITS EVERYWHERE. I would really just stop thinking about it so much and something good will just fall right into your lap!

marichiko 07-06-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
In other words, you have to play games. :rolleyes:

Well, no, Bruce. But face it, we all tend to back away from signs of desperation (I think men, even more than women), and gravitate toward those who give us a sense that they're not going to crumple up in a helpless ball without us. Personally, at those times when I've been in the "helpless ball" state, I've stayed at home when I felt I couldn't at least ACT like I was mildly discriminating. There's nothing worse than being a helpless ball with all around refusing to play "the game" with you.

Elionwyr 07-18-2004 09:52 PM

It depends.
Usually, it's **barely** 10%.

But every few months, I seem to go into heat, and then it's more like 50-60%.
:help:

jaguar 07-19-2004 01:17 AM

I thought NY was full of single women? Damn Ruby Wax and her american pie.

marichiko 07-19-2004 12:23 PM

Hell, I thought Lausanne was full of single women, Jag, and London, as well. ;)

jaguar 07-19-2004 12:37 PM

I'm hoping london is, lausanne has been a right bore.

breakingnews 07-19-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hot_pastrami
Is this the picture you're thinking of?

Wow, but, no, not that picture. I need to purge some of those old ridiculous photos.

Soon. From somewhere.

breakingnews 07-19-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz
When i was Car hunting, it seemed like every second car i saw on the street was the Mitsubishi Lancer i wanted.

When i broke up with my last boyfriend, it seemed like everywhere i went - i thought i saw him.

Sometimes if something is bothering you, or is an issue in your life then ITS EVERYWHERE. I would really just stop thinking about it so much and something good will just fall right into your lap!

Yah, like the 32-year-old teacher I shacked up with last Friday. Guess my dry spell has finally ended ...

SouthOfNoNorth 07-23-2004 10:32 AM

breakingnews, if you want your luck to change, just try going to a bar to have a drink by yourself to chill out once. i tried that last saturday after my woman and i had a huge meltdown fight. i was minding my own business getting de-stroyed when i basically got molested at the bar. this woman starts rubbing my shirt and telling me she had $600 pajamas made out of the same material. it never happens when you want it. and rarely with whom you want it.

lookout123 07-23-2004 11:47 AM

woman can see and smell the desperation in a man. if you are absolutely on the hunt, you will probably come up empty handed, or at most come up with a partner of questionable quality.
Rule #1 learned as a young bartender: the easiest thing in the world to do when looking for a partner is nothing at all. be confident, speak politely to everyone you encounter, and when with an interesting woman, show interest in her and her life without starting the stop watch to see how long it will take to land in bed. follow those rules and female friends and even some ex-girlfriends will be referring their friends to you for companionship.

russotto 07-23-2004 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
follow those rules and female friends and even some ex-girlfriends will be referring their friends to you for companionship.

Yep, and they'll come to you for companionship and nothing more.... and they'll complain to you about the jerks they ARE sleeping with.

lookout123 07-23-2004 01:07 PM

um, no. by companionship i actually meant shacking up. i could be more descriptive if you'd like.
the more you chase 'em, the faster they run.

jaguar 07-23-2004 01:35 PM

I think this might be a geographic linguistics issue but I know 'shacking up' as living with rather than shagging.

lookout123 07-23-2004 01:40 PM

let me be more clear then: horizontal mambo, screwing, fucking, playing hide the salami, taking the fishboat to tuna town, DATY, releasing the oneeyed trouser snake, etc...

i feel so dirty now.

wolf 07-23-2004 01:42 PM

In the US shacking up implies shagging. It's not just sharing the rent and expenses here. And it's usually said with a leer ... remember, we Americans are still largely in the sexual dark ages, and our older folks feel that such arrangements are naughty.

jaguar 07-23-2004 01:44 PM

DATY? Well, I'll keep in mind never to tell USian friends that I used to shack up with a bunch of friends and I'll tell them we don't root for football teams.

lookout123 07-23-2004 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar
DATY?

dining at the Y. use your imagination. :D

Cyber Wolf 07-23-2004 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
In the US shacking up implies shagging. It's not just sharing the rent and expenses here. And it's usually said with a leer ... remember, we Americans are still largely in the sexual dark ages, and our older folks feel that such arrangements are naughty.

It's especially suspicious when the two are of different races. People were quick to point out how unseemly it was for me, a young black woman, to share an apartment with a young white man. And he got the same thing, only the other way around. Bullocks, sez I.

lookout123 07-23-2004 02:03 PM

that really isn't that uncommon around these parts. nobody would give you a second look. unless you're really hot - and that would be different now, wouldn't it?

jinx 07-23-2004 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
It's especially suspicious when the two are of different races. People were quick to point out how unseemly it was for me, a young black woman, to share an apartment with a young white man. And he got the same thing, only the other way around. Bullocks, sez I.

I shared an apartment with 2 guys, in a redneck/amish area. Got a few looks... The women that worked in the warehouse below us called us the 3's company family, and there was much gossip.

SouthOfNoNorth 07-23-2004 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
It's especially suspicious when the two are of different races. People were quick to point out how unseemly it was for me, a young black woman, to share an apartment with a young white man. And he got the same thing, only the other way around. Bullocks, sez I.

i agree. try DATING someone from another race. i dated a girl from trinidad when i was in college. got flack from people who were supposed to be my friends (and supposedly open minded) and a lot of nasty stares from people on the street. never did tell my family, as i knew how that would have went over. it wasn't a serious relationship (but it was a LOT of fun :D ), but i knew that i couldn't tell my family about it. america is far, far behind in this respect. who gives a shite? i'll never understand.

Cyber Wolf 07-23-2004 02:34 PM

I was actually engaged to a white guy at one point. Long story short, it didn't work out but that was an adventure, snuggling in public in Richmond VA even, the HEART of the Sout'. :blush:


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