I break people's character down into at least 3 categories:

Bad people often do what's wrong just for their own gratification. I have no use for bad people in any capacity.

Good people usually do what's right; but, often, only because they have to. I will work for good people and let good people work for me. Good people make the world go 'round.

Honorable people usually do what's right (no one's perfect) just for the sake of doing what's right, not because they have to. I will follow the leadership of honorable people and work for them as a subordinate leader. If good people make the world go 'round, honorable people set the pace.

This thread's original question doesn't offer me an option that I'm willing to be content with.

Butter wouldn't melt in my mouth:p

I believe all people are good in nature.

I don't.

I know they are not. Your event set is too small.

cool pics, mrnoodle. The bottom one is very interesting.

I feel that your event set is too small, though, unlike you, I do not presume so much to act like I know. You know nothing of what I have been through or have learned.
Hubris is an unattractive trait.

Technically, her event set cannot possibly be too small. Since you are claiming that all people are good in nature, you should ideally have all people in your set, though most would let you get away with a representative sample; whereas wolf need only have one single person in her set who is not good in nature to prove your set incomplete.

Those pics came from a holocaust site I came across while googling (don't recall the name). The top one is of a group of women -- some with infants -- who have been stripped and are being led to their execution site. The bottom pic is of a group of men waiting to be gassed. There are some emotions that an actor just can't portray -- look at their eyes.

If rk would have said. 'I believe all people are good' ( period ) then maybe I would care to ask what the heck 'event set' means but since people obviously missed the word ' nature' and the phrase 'in nature' modifys the word 'good' I could presume to think he meant people at their core and before any acquired behavior. I think so. I could be wrong. I am not very smart.


Even people that slag off other people he thinks are good at their core.

I don't.

anyway....
Those are some sad photos mr noodle. What I was really going to say in a smart alec way was, only whiteys are ever really bad in the scope of history it seems. :rolleyes:


[I guess I should edit it to include the word 'us' whiteys' ]

That would be babies and toddlers which is the most selfish, self-centered, group I can think of. ;)

Once the spirit is broken color/race no longer exsist. These pics wouldn't have been near as impactive to me had they been in color. Sad? Yes. Real? Even more so.

Take a look at Darfur. It's just as bad there as it has been anywhere.

What whites really perfected was worldwide conquest, so we could do this crap everywhere, instead of just within our borders or with our immediate neighbors.

Ummm, you seem to have overlooked all the African dictators since Idi Amin, which could easily account for another 3-6 million souls, and also the Japanese atrocities since 1900 (how about what they did in Shanghai and Manila) and then top off with the Maoist purges in China and Pol Pot in Cambodia and Laos. I believe that barring little details like our atomic arsenal, the tally is probably higher for murders at the hands of non-whites in this century. Give them the bomb and we will never catch up, darn it :neutral:

* duly noted Tonchi and Happy Monkey*

I should have used the 'yeah right' emoticon. I thought calling myself a whitey would have given it away. * sigh * I guess I don't have any street talk. It would have made it more sarcastic. Don't mind me. I'm probably like Napoleon Dynamite :) ( although I've never actually seen Napoleon Dynamite . I can imagine it )



@ Bruce, ha! That is exactly the age I was thinking. :apickle:

"give them the bomb"? They HAVE the bomb. Pakistan and India aren't white, and China definitely has the bomb too, who you specifically mentioned. North Korea may have the bomb soon, if they don't already. Its definitely not just us honkies who have the bomb.

At last count, nobody in the list of examples I gave has any semblance of wmd except China. Uganda, Ruwanda, Congo, Sudan, and Somalia do just fine with drug-crazed children carrying rusty machetes or tribal militias. North Korea did not go into my equations because We wiped out just as many of them as they did their breatheren in South Korea. Pakistan may have the bomb, but so far they have contented themselves with killing Indians/Hindus on a relatively small scale. And my point is that all these non-whites have very industriously been wiping out huge numbers of their own kind without benefit of "the bomb". If you want to get technical, blacks slaughtered twice as many other blacks in Ruwanda over a month or so than died in the bombing of Hiroshima. Hate does not require that much science.

I get what you're saying, you just weren't clear before when you said "Give them the bomb and we will never catch up, darn it", because you were talking about non-white people killing lots of people, and therefore I assumed you were talking about non-white people when you said "them". So I replied with examples of non-white people who have nukes.

....it was sarcasm ;) Like we are in a race for the highest total or something....?

I know it was sarcasm, you missed my point, I was just saying that white folk ain't the only people with nukes.

That is why my two-year-old piles his favorite toys on top of me saying he is giving them to me to try to get the pain to stop when I am having a bad pain day/event? Why, when he gets his favorite foods/toys he always tries to share them without being prompted... he just enjoys sharing, it simply brings him joy.

My belief system is such that I, and the Path is, believe that all nature is benevolent in nature.
All pain is from unbalance, confusion and grasping.
All those who cause pain to others are confused, in pain themselves and know no other way to express it but to share that pain.
It is far more complicated than that, but in this form (posting) it will have to do
That is what I meant. Thank you.
Though, again, a bit more complicated. It does take some personal discipline to get in touch with stated nature and more to accept it. Though there are exceptions where some are just in touch without the work... I envy them.

Spend an hour talking to a multiple offense child rapist and then get back to me.

Sharing is a learned behavior.

I don't think all people are inherently bad... I think all people are inherently stupid. Homo Sapiens is a herd species.

Some people are simply bad. If you don't think so it's only 'coz you haven't met them yet.

Like I said you know nothing about me.
My wife was raped by her father from two to fifteen. He did the same to her sister... I stand by my statement.
My wife has the same conviction.

He is not the worst person I have met or spent time with. Speak of what you know.

BTW, I don't believe in evil.
The desire to do it is not.

Naturally-selected altruistic behavior is a valid benefit to the collective gene pool.

That's that old 'nature' or 'nurture' question isn't it?