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Shawnee123 09-23-2008 01:53 PM

The woman in the middle of the triangle is giving the best head.

LabRat 09-23-2008 01:59 PM

Is that Epcot Center in the background behind the pond?

Shawnee123 09-23-2008 02:00 PM

Heeheee, maybe it's Bush Gardens.

jester 09-23-2008 05:07 PM

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it's actually an "erotic sculpture park" in (Japan i believe).

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Sundae 09-24-2008 10:49 AM

I think she's using her teeth!

Shawnee123 09-24-2008 12:15 PM

Complete and utter aside:

Do we really want people who are searching for the sick shit that was posted yesterday (day before? I refuse to go back to those pages to check) to find it here in the Cellar?

You can think of me anything you want: a prude who doesn't like to view dead birth or handicapped persons engaging in intimacy...but to me those pics were exploitive as hell and should be removed.

To hell with freedom of expression and all that crap. Those postings do not belong on the cellar. The NSFW WTF is one thing: exploitive images that very sick people find erotic don't belong here.

"You can drive a car with your feet but that doesn't make it a good f*cking idea."

Flame me. Yell at me. I don't care. I thought about this all last night and this is how I feel about it.

glatt 09-24-2008 12:18 PM

Nobody has publicly admitted to liking the pictures.

I put him on ignore for posting them.

I won't miss them if they are gone.

Shawnee123 09-24-2008 12:23 PM

The ignore is a good idea. Can you point me to the poster so that I don't have to go back and see those pics? Can't remember for sure who it was or how to spell it if I am recalling correctly.

Whoever you are, I don't believe I've ever had any problems with you in the past: this is not a personal attack on you, this is just a very deep feeling of those pics being very, very wrong, to me.

jinx 09-24-2008 12:26 PM

Yeah, I didn't need to see any of that.
The handicapped pics looked like abuse to me, like someone posed them that way and then took pics to post on the net... gross.

footfootfoot 09-24-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 486268)
Heeheee, maybe it's Bush Gardens.

I got it Shawnee. ;)

its bigw00dy you want to ignore. I agree with jinx the crip pics look staged and abusive.

glatt 09-24-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 486537)
Whoever you are, I don't believe I've ever had any problems with you in the past: this is not a personal attack on you, this is just a very deep feeling of those pics being very, very wrong, to me.

bigw00dy has had some pretty good posts in other threads, and I intend to read those posts by clicking on the option to read them if they appear. But he'll stay on ignore in this thread.

Shawnee123 09-24-2008 01:11 PM

That works for me too. Thanks guys.

Montmorency 09-24-2008 03:36 PM

I'm certainly in no position to criticise someone's choice of pictures to post, but could I propose one of the mods please arrange some sort of a Livejournal cut type of thing for the pictures bigw00dy posted? With a warning about the exact content behind the link?

Sure, this is WTFNSFW, but usually, what you expect to see here is just nudity, odd art, weird public demonstrations, piercings and bodypaintings with an odd still from some porn movie thrown in.

Sure, everyone can use the ignore function, but only after seeing the images.

Being the newb, I'll trust your judgement on this, I wouldn't like to alarm the moderators without a cause. (Also, I weep for the mod who gets job.).

classicman 09-24-2008 03:57 PM

Yeh the n00b thats been here over 4 years?

Undertoad 09-24-2008 04:10 PM

The question is moot because bigwoody hotlinked the images from jj.am.

Bad bigwoody! And yes, jj.am is the finest archive of gruesome and sick items. For those who like that sort of thing, you man browse there to yer open heart's content.

Clodfobble 09-24-2008 05:46 PM

(For those not inclined to click back and check, this means the pics are gone and replaced with links now.)

Montmorency 09-24-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 486619)
Yeh the n00b thats been here over 4 years?

Well, it's the actual contribution to the board that counts, innit :)


Thank you, UT.



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(For those not inclined to click back and check, this means the pics are gone and replaced with links now.)


Hoped that's what 'moot' must have meant :)

footfootfoot 09-24-2008 06:18 PM

Clodfobble is awesome! she rockz. out.

glatt 09-24-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 486663)
Clodfobble is awesome! she rockz. out.

Tell us something we haven't already known for, like, ever.

toranokaze 09-24-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 486209)
Ugly word.

Considering the context I didn't think the PC term was appropriate.

footfootfoot 09-24-2008 09:11 PM

Stop me before I open the tab I google searched for jj.am. UT, couldn't you have just written something like "hotlinked from another sight"?

toranokaze 09-24-2008 09:31 PM

http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1222309654486.jpg

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 08:32 AM

Thanks!

It just felt wrong, ya know?

You all rock!

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2008 08:37 AM

You saw it. You didn't like it. So now you're protected from going back and seeing it again. :rolleyes:

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 08:38 AM

Hmmmm...I've seen many things I don't particularly care for, but did not ask for removal.

I can't unsee it, anyhoo! :)

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2008 08:43 AM

So you're protecting others from not being able to unsee it.

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 08:46 AM

Whoa whoa whoa.

I just felt that those pics weren't your regular pron. I like me some pron, don't get me wrong.

Those pics were exploitive, and very sick. I'm not sure it wasn't on the outskirts of some kind of law.

Anyway, it's your board. I just never thought the Cellar should come up as an option when someone googles "disgusting exploitive and sick pron for future serial killers."

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2008 08:55 AM

No, it's not my board... it's UT's URL and our board.

"Future serial killers"? C'mon.

glatt 09-25-2008 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 486627)
And yes, jj.am is the finest archive of gruesome and sick items. For those who like that sort of thing, you man browse there to yer open heart's content.

Open heart's content. I just saw that. lol

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 09:12 AM

Whatever Bruce. I knew there would be someone call me out for making that stand, I didn't expect it to be you. I knew it would be directed at ME, but I didn't think it would be you.

BTW, have we met? If not, let me fill you in: I have a very sarcastic sense of humor.

If you don't see how sick that was, or care that it's associated with teh Cellar...fine. I'm just such a prude: people being exploited in that way doesn't turn me on. And we thought I was such a liberal. :eyebrow:

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2008 09:29 AM

Serial killers? People being exploited?
I feel your mistake is assuming everyone that doesn't have the same reaction as you do, damn well should. That, my dear, is censorship.

lumberjim 09-25-2008 09:34 AM

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I'm sure you've all seen this in your email at some point, but i wanted to put it up because it makes me happy


the lead in is that these two planned this touching scene where they would each release a white dove on the steps of the church to symbolize their love for each other.....the best laid plans...

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 09:35 AM

My sensibilities don't match yours, that much is clear.

Censorship is also squelching my opinion about such matters. I can't believe I'm sitting here feeling guilty.

Did the dead woman, or the baby, have any say in the posting of those pictures? Do you think the mentally handicapped individuals thought about all the pros and cons of doing such a photo shoot, and made a clear, informed decision to go for it? Perhaps they were trying to make society aware that handicapped people, just like you and me, have active sex lives? Pleeeeeeeeeez. That, my dear, is exploitation.

Yeah, I don't advocate child pron either.

lumberjim 09-25-2008 09:37 AM

but.....


ACCIDENTAL TITS!

just a couple posts ago!

glatt 09-25-2008 09:48 AM

Now that's interesting, because I like the wedding picture, but it's just about as exploitative as the other ones. I doubt that the bride wanted it to be on the web like that.

I guess it all boils down to the subject matter. One picture is attractive and the other two are disgusting. All are exploiting someone.

xoxoxoBruce 09-25-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 486838)
My sensibilities don't match yours, that much is clear.

No, that's not clear. You're making assumptions.
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Censorship is also squelching my opinion about such matters.
Censorship and self censorship are two different animals.
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I can't believe I'm sitting here feeling guilty.
You absolutely should not be. You have every right to express your opinion and I'll defend that right to the dea.. well, till it hurts a little.;)
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Did the dead woman, or the baby, have any say in the posting of those pictures?
What determines exploitive, is the intent at the time the photographs were taken. After that, exploitive is in the eye of the beholder... their reaction to seeing them. I would guess, considering the site they were posted on, they were being exploitively used, there.
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Do you think the mentally handicapped individuals thought about all the pros and cons of doing such a photo shoot, and made a clear, informed decision to go for it? Perhaps they were trying to make society aware that handicapped people, just like you and me, have active sex lives?
I can't answer that. But neither can you, you're making assumptions based on your reaction.
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Pleeeeeeeeeez. That, my dear, is exploitation.
Opinion, not fact.
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Yeah, I don't advocate child pron either.
It's your right to be in the majority, but that's a strawman.

Shawnee123 09-25-2008 10:01 AM

The bride chose the dress. :shrug:


The argument that imposes a "don't kill the cute animals, just the ugly ones" to my position on THIS subject is pretty weak in this context.

toranokaze 09-25-2008 11:47 AM

<off topic>
Where do you guys host all these images, since direct linking is bad. And all the hosting sites I know have a strict ban on nudity( including artful).
I just wanted to know where you host this stuff, so I may contribute fully.
</off topic>
As for the disturbing couple the real matter of exploitation is all about context.

What are there mental conditions and are they able to make higher level choices?
Did they know what they were doing?
Did they know what the pics were for?
Did they intend for them to get out on to the internet?
Is someone, other than themselves, making a profit off their images?

And despite where or not it is exploitation is a different matter than where or not they should be on the board, for I'm sure somewhere on this board there is a nsfw pic that the original subject was not fully consensual for the pic to go on to the internet.

They do fit the subject matter of the board, however, the mods have the power to censor the board anyway they feel without necessarily our consent. Although personally I feel that it was for the good of this thread and the board as a whole.

glatt 09-25-2008 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 486890)
<off topic>
Where do you guys host all these images, since direct linking is bad. And all the hosting sites I know have a strict ban on nudity( including artful).
I just wanted to know where you host this stuff, so I may contribute fully.
</off topic>

You upload them to this site as an attachment when you post your message. See the "manage attachments" option down at the bottom of the screen when you are drafting a post.

toranokaze 09-25-2008 12:04 PM

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Thank you(pic unrelated).

Pico and ME 09-25-2008 12:42 PM

Shawnee, I was wondering when the censor discussion would pop up over this. Bruce and any others who agree with him have the right to feel the way they do...BUT SO DO YOU. I applaud you for braving the backlash by speaking up about those posts. Limiting them to a link was a wonderful way to handle it.

Undertoad 09-25-2008 01:06 PM

It was just luck, if that's the case. It's not a specified rule here, but hotlinking images from other sites that don't want you to hotlink is generally frowned upon on the net. We were using jj.am's precious bandwidth, forcing them to buy even more porn advertising than they would have bought previously.

lumberjim 09-25-2008 02:03 PM

the net can frown upon theeeese....

:: points to his balls ::::

Undertoad 09-25-2008 02:14 PM

It does.

lumberjim 09-25-2008 02:31 PM

so mote it beeeeee

BigV 09-25-2008 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 486923)
so mote they beeeeee

ftfy

[/grammar nazi]

lumberjim 09-25-2008 02:37 PM

http://www.masonicworld.com/educatio...mote_it_be.htm

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_so_mote_it_be_mean

[/ead]

TheMercenary 09-25-2008 02:57 PM

"So smote it be."

BrianR 09-25-2008 04:49 PM

It's true that the phrase is uttered at Masonic meetings.

footfootfoot 09-25-2008 05:27 PM

I vote that Shawnee isn't allowed to speak about censorship unless she posts a picture of her assests.

Nirvana 09-25-2008 06:40 PM

I feel that death is a private matter for the families of these people. I feel that when these images were posted it exploited and contaminated my brain and left this person with no dignity in death. There was no choice about whether to view them or not given to anyone, despite the disclaimer.

I have no problem viewing a person that is dead. I have seen dead people before. I have had friends die and their relatives asked me to fix their hair and make-up before the viewing at the funeral home. The one girl had been so sick and she always had sunshiny hi lighted hair and her family felt that she should look how she would have wanted to look. I cannot imagine the pain that this person's family must feel if they know her image is being paraded around the internet. She was a person now she is dead.

She was put on as a grotesque display for a reaction. I don't think this is about censorship as much as it is about human dignity in death.

classicman 09-25-2008 08:03 PM

Very well put!

Crimson Ghost 09-26-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 486973)
It's true that the phrase is uttered at Masonic meetings.

True.

Also the phrase "When I was Master..." gets a good workout.

Just out of curiosity, am I the only Freemason in The Cellar?

ZenGum 09-26-2008 06:18 AM

:secret sign smiley:



Edit: not really.

Shawnee123 09-26-2008 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 486986)
I vote that Shawnee isn't allowed to speak about censorship unless she posts a picture of her assests.

Just as I tell people who offer a string of beads to see boobies: it's gonna cost you a lot more than a cheap string of plastic beads to see these babies! So, it's gonna cost you more than a little friendly cajoling! :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 487007)
I feel that death is a private matter for the families of these people. I feel that when these images were posted it exploited and contaminated my brain and left this person with no dignity in death. There was no choice about whether to view them or not given to anyone, despite the disclaimer.

I have no problem viewing a person that is dead. I have seen dead people before. I have had friends die and their relatives asked me to fix their hair and make-up before the viewing at the funeral home. The one girl had been so sick and she always had sunshiny hi lighted hair and her family felt that she should look how she would have wanted to look. I cannot imagine the pain that this person's family must feel if they know her image is being paraded around the internet. She was a person now she is dead.

She was put on as a grotesque display for a reaction. I don't think this is about censorship as much as it is about human dignity in death.

Very nicely put, Nirvana. You said what I should have said.

footfootfoot 09-26-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 487075)
Just as I tell people who offer a string of beads to see boobies: it's gonna cost you a lot more than a cheap string of plastic beads to see these babies! So, it's gonna cost you more than a little friendly cajoling! :p

I love a woman with strong moral principles.

LabRat 09-26-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost (Post 487065)
Just out of curiosity, am I the only Freemason in The Cellar?

Red has been one for several years, and served in most of the officer positions. He was Master of his lodge last year. He got a little too much enjoyment out of making me call him master though IMHO. :rolleyes: I preferred to call him top turd.

HungLikeJesus 09-26-2008 09:08 AM

I thought the Freemasons were a secret society.

Shawnee123 09-26-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 487100)
I love a woman with strong moral principles.

:lol:

I'm immoral when the situation calls for it and I want to be! It's just a personal thing, for me!

LabRat 09-26-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 487129)
I thought the Freemasons were a secret society.

They have some secret rituals, but it's not 100% secret. Family is invited to certain ceremonies, like Officer Installation, and Past Master dinners. They also have dinners where they honor citizens in the community and winners of the college scholarships they give away, stuff like that.


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