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Griff 01-19-2020 08:50 AM

In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse.

Gravdigr 01-19-2020 11:53 AM

Even if'n you're a pohlees man?

xoxoxoBruce 01-19-2020 12:09 PM

Even cops can't carry in the courthouse.

Gravdigr 01-19-2020 12:21 PM

So, there are NO guns in a courthouse? Ever?

Hasn't there been news articles that talk about judges carrying under the robe?

Say some guy goes batshit over his parking ticket, do the bailiffs call 911 and wait?

xoxoxoBruce 01-19-2020 12:32 PM

They have clubs, mace, cuffs, and numbers. There are guns in the courthouse but not the part the public has access to except the Sheriff's office right inside the front door. In the back building I had to give up my jackknife going to the tax office because childrens court is in that building. On the way out I asked for it back and the guard pointed at a half full cardboard box and says help yourself. Must have been a hundred in there, I guess people assume they're gone, can't be that many people going in and being turned into soylent green.
I'm describing the DelCo courthouse, I try to stay out of the others.

Big Sarge 01-19-2020 10:14 PM

I have to disagree with you on the court. Down here, law enforcement officers can carry in court. I did when I was testifying. Also, our court bailiffs are armed. When I was a law enforcement officer, I even wore my sidearm when I met the governor at the capitol building.

xoxoxoBruce 01-19-2020 10:42 PM

This discussion started when Griff said "In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse." then I added even cops don't here. The discussion was about PA, I'm sure there are states that do and states that don't. There has also been cases of somebody freaking out and grabbing the bailiffs gun, and like Grav said Judges armed. I use to go with a woman who worked at a woodworking outfit in Lancaster County and she said they were building bulletproof Judges benches.

Big Sarge 01-20-2020 07:40 AM

Apologies, I thought the thread had drifted to a generalized statement. BTW, many of our judges are armed and some wear kevlar vests. I don't remember any of our judges in my part of the state being attacked physically, but we had an extremely famous case where a housekeeper was convicted of stealing a judge's nail clippings and hair to use in a voodoo ritual against him. She got a felony conviction.

Sorry for the thread drift.

Griff 01-20-2020 07:46 AM

Thread drift is high art. I want more on the voodoo track!

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2020 09:11 AM

Right, tread drift takes us to the most interesting places. Nail clippings and hair is petty theft, not a felony, must have been for the voodoo. Maybe for attempted voodoo... with intent. Yeah, that's real interesting, any links to newspaper articles or anything?.

Big Sarge 01-20-2020 10:08 AM

Apologies guys, I got the details twisted. It was 2 brothers convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. They tried to get a lock of hair and a picture for the voodoo ritual. One brother got 10 years and the other got 5 years. The AP story link has the post conviction details

https://apnews.com/b40ef45f4220dd17a8840eecee80f2fb

https://i.ibb.co/1JGzP6w/judge-gardner.jpg

Gravdigr 01-20-2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1045031)
...I had to give up my jackknife.

Went to get my driver's license once and forgot my pocket knife was in my pocket. The bailiff said I'd have to give it up til I came back out. It was a very collectible knife, quite valuable, I asked him "Can I get a receipt for that knife?", he didn't hesitate and whipped out a logbook and gave me a receipt with a good description of the knife.

BigV 01-20-2020 11:29 AM

I've had that experience here entering the courthouse. I got a receipt and the knife went in a ziploc baggie presumably to keep the knife and the receipt together.

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2020 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 1045086)
Apologies guys, I got the details twisted. It was 2 brothers convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. They tried to get a lock of hair and a picture for the voodoo ritual. One brother got 10 years and the other got 5 years. The AP story link has the post conviction details.

That's crazy, John Henry got 10 years for something going on outside while he was in jail?
And Leroy got 5 years for being the victim of a Voodoo priest scam? Good grief. :facepalm:

Griff 01-21-2020 06:38 AM

The price of stupidity can be high.


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