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Aliantha 11-23-2006 08:00 PM

Well at 4/427, I'm more than game. :)

Urbane Guerrilla 11-23-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
Incidentally Urbane, Up until very recently the concept of militia was a strong part of the English consciousness. We held to a militia system for over a thousand years. It was the duty for every freeborn man to hold arms throughout the saxon and medieval period.

Which is where WE got it from. What's more, as a society that loudly makes a point of its citizens being freeborn, we're determined to keep them around.

Your society should not drop this, or you'll be 1984 in only a matter of time. You have only to reread the book to say yuck to that. At least, that's all I have to do. You?

Griff 11-24-2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Which is where WE got it from. What's more, as a society that loudly makes a point of its citizens being freeborn, we're determined to keep them around.

Roger that.

DanaC 11-24-2006 10:36 AM

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Your society should not drop this, or you'll be 1984 in only a matter of time. You have only to reread the book to say yuck to that. At least, that's all I have to do. You?
Forgive me, but we aren't the ones who started a perpetual war against an invisible enemy :P That said, we are the most surveiled nation in Europe.

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At least, that's all I have to do. You?
I am very familar with Orwell's work.

JayMcGee 11-24-2006 07:18 PM

ISTR that every home in many of the cantons of Switzerland are required to posses and to be profiecent with arms. Yet one so rarely sees hordes of swiss 'sportsmen' swanning around the alps blasting away at the yodellers, nor even swaggering around their downtown malls 'carrying'. Why would that be?

JayMcGee 11-24-2006 07:21 PM

@ ali - was going to say I'm going to train my big guns on you, but tbh at 9/602 and then a paltry response of 53 for 3, I think I'm more inclined to shoot our own team!

Aliantha 11-24-2006 08:25 PM

It's far worse than that Jay. ;)

Show us ya guns baby!

Aliantha 11-24-2006 10:13 PM

Wooohoooo! England all out for 157 in the first innings!!!

Looks like we'll be one up in the series to kick things off. :D

JayMcGee 11-25-2006 08:00 PM

*sniff...* it's only a game....

martinbrody 11-26-2006 01:45 AM

As you can see I am new to this forum, in fact this thread brought me to it.

I think the article posted overlooks the practicality of this law. While the text of the bill being introduced certainly makes it clear the law is about using a gun for protection, the law's real world effect is a practical one.

Having lived near Gettysburg National Park and currently living near Valley Forge National Park the current prohibition of carrying a gun through them creates several problems. The first is that many people who have a permit and legally carry a gun concealed may not be aware of this prohibition. It is your duty to know the law, but this is not common knowledge even among informed gun owners. The second problem is that these parks are large and have prominent throughways that are used by many during their daily commute & regular drives. These two circumstances have to potential to land one of the good guys in very big trouble.

I don't think the intent of the bill is to make the parks safer, but to add uniformity to concealed carry laws.

xoxoxoBruce 11-26-2006 02:20 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, martinbrody.:D
Good point. A lot of parks have major through travel.

wolf 11-26-2006 12:09 PM

I think that travel through the park without intention of stopping would be covered as 'peaceable journey,' in the same way that you can drive through a post office parking lot or within 1000 feet of a school while armed, just so long as you don't go inside the buildings.

Trilby 11-26-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee
...every home in many of the cantons of Switzerland are required to posses and to be profiecent with arms. Yet one so rarely sees hordes of swiss 'sportsmen' swanning around the alps blasting away at the yodellers...

The fact that the armed Swiss are NOT gunning those yodellers down is a testament to their commitment to peace at any price.

Here's to the Swiss!

Aliantha 11-26-2006 05:36 PM

What's wrong with yodelling?

btw, it's not a practice soley kept for the swiss. Plenty of country singers do it too. ;)

DanaC 11-27-2006 04:50 AM

Yeah....but do they do it wearing funny pants?


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