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tw 06-05-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 351163)
But Saddam didn't have thousands of people trying to stop him from delivering electricity.

That's right. They did not so hate their government under Saddam as much as they hate American occupiers and the American puppet government.

tw 06-05-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 351167)
... I doubt that moving them halfway across the world ... is going to create any "normalcy".

Normalcy? That ship left five years ago when "America does not do nation building". Even George Jr has been caught saying that American troops may be in Iraq for the next ten years.

Considering how the Democrats even folded like wimps - less, George Jr is probably correct. And just like in Nam, the American death rates will only increase every year. As for the indigenous people (also called Iraqis) - they are now nothing but cattle to be slaughtered. That is the attitude that Americans are taking. Wacko extremist somehow call that morality.

No, I am not kidding. We took this same attitude in Nam. Vietnamese became nothing but horsemeat in a war where our 'big dics' were still fighting a proxy war against China and USSR. "Mission Accomplished" is following the same track complete with an adminstration that claims we are "winning the war". Iraqis are now taking on an image of second class people complete with an American puppet government. Americans - military and civilian - are becoming numb to the massacres of the locals. Even American troops in mass numbers (one in three) consider torture and indiscriminate shooting to be 'situation normal'. It’s only a matter of years before America creates another My Lai.

Deja vue Nam. When our leaders are outright liars and crooks, crime - domestic and military - becomes acceptable. Tell me in such situations where anything for Iraqis can be normalcy?

monster 06-05-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 351179)
Tell me in such situations where anything for Iraqis can be normalcy?


Can't.

My point, really, but in more words and with more political posturing. (but no emotion ;) )

Aliantha 06-06-2007 01:13 AM

OK, maybe normalcy wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said, 'so they can live without worrying about being shot by one of the many different factions shooting guns within Iraq at the moment'.

fargon 06-06-2007 07:19 AM

Do we really need more 7-11 managers in this country. The last group of exiles we let in (Iranians) took over a major segment of our service industry. I have worked with these people and have seen businesses ruined and customers cheated.
One case in point, a cab company in El Toro Ca. was running improperly registered, and uninsured taxis. When this company was investigated by the PUC the owners Mahmood, and Mosen disappeared and left the middle managers holding the bag.
We allow these people in and they flaunt our laws, and rip off everybody they can. If people want to come here and play by the rules, and try to get along come on down there is always room for more at my table. Just don't come here and expect us to let you cheat, and ridicule our country.

Rexmons 06-06-2007 07:37 AM

I'm suprised we didn't leave them to be killed by their fellow countrymen, considering how we've handled every other aspect of this war...

piercehawkeye45 06-06-2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 351248)
We allow these people in and they flaunt our laws, and rip off everybody they can. If people want to come here and play by the rules, and try to get along come on down there is always room for more at my table. Just don't come here and expect us to let you cheat, and ridicule our country.

Ugh, corporations do that too.

monster 06-06-2007 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 351231)
OK, maybe normalcy wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said, 'so they can live without worrying about being shot by one of the many different factions shooting guns within Iraq at the moment'.

and instead go to school and get shot? ;)




(yup, cheap shot)

Urbane Guerrilla 06-07-2007 01:29 AM

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He has a political agenda.
And the queen of political agenda should know.

Urbane Guerrilla 06-07-2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 351140)
Allah Akabar.

Hmm. True to form: no better at Arabic than any other language. Check.

Two syllables in akbar, you low-talent non-sage unpundit.

Rexmons 06-07-2007 07:32 AM

Anyone ever notice that if someone does something bad in the news the only times they'll state the persons religious afflilation is if there Muslim? Or obviously if they're a religious official (Priest, Rabbi, Minister)

piercehawkeye45 06-07-2007 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 351614)
Anyone ever notice that if someone does something bad in the news the only times they'll state the persons religious afflilation is if there Muslim? Or obviously if they're a religious official (Priest, Rabbi, Minister)

Yes. Those are the subtle tricks the news use to get you to agree with their agenda.

They will also never show a beautiful shot of an area that is suppose to be "bad". All you will see is desert and poverty.

TheMercenary 06-07-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 351140)
Allah Akabar.

Fitting response...:neutral:

Now we know where your true allegiance lies.

TheMercenary 06-07-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 351614)
Anyone ever notice that if someone does something bad in the news the only times they'll state the persons religious afflilation is if there Muslim? Or obviously if they're a religious official (Priest, Rabbi, Minister)

Maybe it is because those other people are not running around performing that "bad" "something" in the name of Allah. :cool:

Rexmons 06-07-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 351638)
Fitting response...:neutral:

Now we know where your true allegiance lies.


yea with God, all he said was "God is great"


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