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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 516911)

...we will have to get use to changes in the way things are done and compromise to remain safe.

I don't think that very many people have a problem with measures that would actually make us safer.

Of course they do. Nobody has a fuckin' clue what keeps us safer, including you.

Imagine if Bush came on television on 9/10/2001, and said that due to remarkable intelligence received about threats to the country, we would be searching every single non-American air passenger for the next month as well as every Islamic American, immediately stopping all overseas flights for a week, invading an as-yet unnamed country in the Middle East, creating a new Homeland Security agency and developing coordinated intelligence between CIA, FBI and Military.

You woulda screamed bloody murder, along with everybody else: Chimpy and his evil minions are LYING COCKSUCKERS! Bent on creating a horrific story in order to build their own new focus of executive power!

Yes. And I say the same now.

Well Pie, ask him for a swig of his koolaid and see if you still feel the same way in a little while...

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 516915)

I don't think that very many people have a problem with measures that would actually make us safer.

I am glad you agree. Many of the actions taken have made us safer. Good to see us agree. :D

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 516931)

Yes. And I say the same now.

There is no doubt in my mind that people like you exist. And that is ok. The rest of us will do the work.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 516840)

That's such crap. I can't believe you're taking this line. I'm furious. Start with the loss of 251 stories of the most prime office space in the country and the devastation of the travel and airline industries. "We allowed it to," I don't think so. In fact "we" prevented the destruction of the White House because passengers onboard Flight 93 were not content to sit back and let their fate be decided for them. That's the attitude you find elsewhere in the world. In most of it, actually.

You want a culture that reacts to that with "Oh well, these things happen!" You want to tell people "Get over it!" And yet you want a culture that makes itself, if not the rest of the world, safe for freedom and democracy. This culture does not and can not exist. The Jacksonian vibrancy of the American people, which made the country what it is, also informs its reaction. When we are hit, the instinct is to react with killing blows. We are the ones that take back Flight 93. Meet that with pride, not cynicism.

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time. If it makes you feel better, your miss-use of the focused bravery of the passengers of Flight 93 makes me furious. The culture you describe is cowering in the back of the plane waiting for someone else to do something. The culture I'm trying to describe acknowleges the tragedy, but doesn't delude itself that it was the worst event ever. It gets back up and gets back to work on America. Fortunately, most Americans have done just that.

Read what these firefighters and EMTs have to say. THEY were there.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...xplosions.html

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 516948)

Read what these firefighters and EMTs have to say. THEY were there.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...xplosions.html

Are you suggesting bombs were planted?

An easy explanation would be that the steel reached its breaking limit. When steel or any metal breaks, it does sounds like an explosion. The samples I heard were much smaller than at the WTC so I can easily see how an entire floor of damn high strength steel could sound like a bomb. Obviously I wasn't there but that seems much more reasonable than bombs being planted within the building.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 516948)

Read what these firefighters and EMTs have to say. THEY were there.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...xplosions.html

Conspiracy Theory from a 9.11 conspiracy theory website. There is no evidence that the posters were actually firefighters who were there.

I wonder how many times this subject has been discussed.

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 516947)

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time.

We did. And we still are. Anywhere, anytime.

Thank God we don't have big brother in OUR life.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/cooper1.html

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 516942)

There is no doubt in my mind that people like you exist. And that is ok. The rest of us will do the work.

And I will lawfully resist you and your type to the best of my abilities.

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 516947)

Think through your fury and hit the God-damn enemy next time.

I'm pretty sure we are having different arguments. I'll leave you to yours.

It was a much more traumatic event, worldwide, than the numbers will look like to future historians. It's been topped in casualties and property damage but not in historical importance, before.

We've been attacked before and probably will be again, but we'll survive and endure. I just regret our response was mismanaged and sidetracked.