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Shawnee123 01-08-2009 10:55 AM
pwned

Beestie 01-08-2009 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 520052)
Which is it? :eyebrow:
Both. The rank and file are well-intended folk who will screw up if not managed by competent leadership. But, like any group, they will screw up in a different way if they feel their leader does not represent or understand them.

Not everyone who thinks Panetta was not the best choice is advancing a right-wing agenda but I can only speak for myself. I'll settle for anybody who can effectively use the resources of the agency to carry out the wishes of the President. And its not obvious to me how Panetta is the ideal candidate to answer that call of duty.

The fact that other people who were also not obvious choices did a good job as an argument in support of Panetta is utterly devoid of merit.

Flint 01-08-2009 11:45 AM
Oh yeah? Your face is utterly devoid of merit.

Beestie 01-08-2009 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 520070)
Oh yeah? Your face is utterly devoid of merit.
True. Fortunately, I have other redeeming features. ;)

Happy Monkey 01-08-2009 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 520068)
Both. The rank and file are well-intended folk who will screw up if not managed by competent leadership. But, like any group, they will screw up in a different way if they feel their leader does not represent or understand them.
The premise of the first quote wasn't incompetence; it was a lack of respect for an outsider. If the rank and file let their resentment for an outsider cause "huge problems", then they are not "doing what is right". If he proves incompetent later, that's on him.
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The fact that other people who were also not obvious choices did a good job as an argument in support of Panetta is utterly devoid of merit.
Correct. It is not an argument in support of Panetta. It is a counterexample to one of the arguments against Panetta.

Shawnee123 01-08-2009 12:07 PM
You know how in cartoons dude will get hit in the head with a frying pan, and his head is all flat, then he shakes his head and makes that "blblblblblblb" noise and his head pops back out? I need a smilie like that. ;)


Ok, I just reread the last few posts, slowly. I think I have it now.

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 520052)
Which is it? :eyebrow:
You are quite confused between people who do not want to do what is right by their boss and those who do the right thing everyday in their job. Fail.

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 520059)
pwned
You actually have to have a job of substance to understand, I can see why you don't.

DanaC 01-08-2009 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520277)
You actually have to have a job of substance to understand, I can see why you don't.
Wtf?

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 520285)
Wtf?
WTF?

DanaC 01-08-2009 08:47 PM
Did you just tell Shawnee she didn't understand something because she has no job of substance? Whose measuring the substance of jobs now, and on what scale?

TheMercenary 01-08-2009 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 520298)
Did you just tell Shawnee she didn't understand something because she has no job of substance? Whose measuring the substance of jobs now, and on what scale?
WTF? No.

DanaC 01-08-2009 08:57 PM
Oh. I misunderstood this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary
You actually have to have a job of substance to understand, I can see why you don't.

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2009 12:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520276)
You are quite confused between people who do not want to do what is right by their boss and those who do the right thing everyday in their job. Fail.
No I'm confused by you making contradictory statements to further your vendetta against all democrats, because they pushed you out of your cushy job in the military.

Cicero 01-09-2009 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 520277)
You actually have to have a job of substance to understand, I can see why you don't.
That will be quite enough of that. :eyebrow:

You should be ashamed.


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