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Originally Posted by tw (Post 683660)

How many deadly operations did al-Awlaki mastermind? None.

How do you know that?

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 683660)

How many deadly operations did al-Awlaki mastermind? None.

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Anwar al-Awlaki - been cited as inspiring the Fort Hood, Tex., massacre and
the plot by two New Jersey men to kill U.S. soldiers -
singled out artist Molly Norris as a "prime target"

Maybe the answer isn't none. His wiki page tells a very different story as do the news outlets and the current administration. According to all those sources, he is an integral part of that terrorist organization.
Heck the DOJ just announced last week they may press charges against him.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 683660)

So different was the threat that bin Laden should not even be discussed in a thread about al-Awlaki, Limbaugh, Beck, and other disciples of hate.

Wait a minute - This thread is about bin Laden and has drifted to include one of his "generals" You want to exclude bin Laden from the discussion, but include Beck & Limbaugh? Srsly?

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Let's not avoid the issue.

ok.

He doesn't want to exclude bin Laden.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 683660)

bin Laden should not even be discussed in a thread about al-Awlaki, Limbaugh, Beck, and other disciples of hate.

Thats how I took this statement.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 683862)

He doesn't want to exclude bin Laden.

Wait a minute. You are associating an irrelevant character - al-Awlaki - with bin Laden. You have no reason to believe he is anything but another Limbaugh or Beck. Those are facts. Why mention his name in a thread about real American enemies? Because wacko extremists want to invent more enemies hiding under our beds?

So why no actionable recommendation? Who gets the hellfire and who gets the brimstone? Or are those attacks as mythical as Saddam's WMDs? Maybe we don't have any hellfire and brimstone? Anything so that we do not discuss America's real world enemy - bin Laden.

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 684244)

Wait a minute. You are associating an irrelevant character - al-Awlaki - with bin Laden. You have no reason to believe he is anything but another Limbaugh or Beck. Those are facts.

Those are not facts, these are facts.

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Mr. Awlaki, born in New Mexico in 1971, served as an imam in California and Virginia. He has been the focus of intense scrutiny since he was linked through e-mails with Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., in November 2009 and then to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man charged with trying to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Dec. 25. He also had ties to two of the 9/11 hijackers although the nature of association remains unclear.

In May 2010, Mr. Awlaki was mentioned by Faisal Shahzad, the Pakistani-American man accused of trying to detonate a car bomb in Times Square. Mr. Shahzad said he was inspired by the violent rhetoric of Mr. Awlaki, an American official said.

American counterterrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They say he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network, feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and at Americans abroad.

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Catching bid Laden will NOT make everything all better again.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 684280)

Catching bid Laden will NOT make everything all better again.

Letting bin Laden go free only makes everything worse. Which should have been obvious before you even posted that despicable soundbyte.

Worry more about a bogey man hiding under your bed. Or the ghost of Saddam. Or get real. Worry most about many who so hate America as to even encourage - as you just have - the freedom of bin Laden and the hatred he represents.

So why do you again not post a single actionable suggestion? Who gets hellfire? Who gets brimstone? Why do you ignore rational questions ... while also advocating bin Laden's freedom? Because you have created a new bogeyman - al-Awlaki?

al-Awlaki is a threat only when hearsay and same logic also proved a toothless Saddam so dangerous. Or did al-Awlaki steal all our hellfire and brimstone? Is that why you have no actionable recommendations?

Reality - no others - not anyone - more deserves court room justice than bin Laden. No one even comes close.

The hunt for bid Laden should certainly continue, that's not in question. But thinking he's the only danger is ludicrous. That's why al-Awlaki has been targeted by the administration. To say we shouldn't pluck the saplings as they appear, just because we haven't been able to take the tree down yet, is ridiculous.