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Sundae 10-03-2011 03:39 PM

I guess it's allowing gay people access to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Which they do not have at present.
And something that many Americans see as the basis of all law in the US.

Last I heard, in some American states you can still be sacked or refused housing (ie a rental you are paying for) if you are gay.

Huge apols if this is no longer true.

But it is true that same sex couples who are legally joined in other countries are simply not recognised.
So gay tourists might find family they have not spoken to in years (extreme situation) have precedence over their life partner if injured.

Land of the Free.

classicman 10-03-2011 03:49 PM

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Last I heard, in some American states you can still be sacked or refused housing (ie to pay for rent) if you are gay.
WHAT? Never heard that one. Not legally anyway.

Sundae 10-03-2011 03:56 PM

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Federal Law versus Local Law
There are federal laws that protect against workplace discrimination based on race, sex, national origin, age, religion, pregnancy status, and disability. Unfortunately, there is currently no federal statute prohibiting private sector sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace. However, if you work for the federal government, you are protected from sexual orientation discrimination. Several proposals to enact a law protecting employees from sexual orientation discrimination have been considered, with no success in them being passed.

Currently the Employment Non-discrimination Act of 2009, which would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, is being considered. The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) has been introduced in Congress to ban discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. The bill would prohibit employers from making decisions about hiring, firing, promoting or compensating an employee based on sexual orientation or gender identity. The ENDA also prohibits preferential treatment of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered employees as well as using quotas requiring an employer to hire a certain number of such employees. Neither of these acts has been passed, yet; thus, there is still no federal protection against sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace.

There are more sexual orientation discrimination laws at the state level. Almost half of the U.S. states, including the District of Columbia, have active laws that prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in both private and public workplaces. These states include

California Colorado Connecticut Hawaii Illinois
Iowa Maine Maryland Massachusetts Minnesota
Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York
Oregon Rhode Island Vermont Washington Wisconsin

Additionally, a few states prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in only public workplaces, such as for state employees: Delaware, Indiana, Michigan, Montana, and Pennsylvania.
Found this just in a few seconds checking.
I could find more, but my intention isn't pointing fingers, it was just to reassure myself I wasn't going mad.

classicman 10-03-2011 04:11 PM

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Unfortunately, there is currently no federal statute prohibiting private sector sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace.
So there was no law stating that it was ok.
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Last I heard, in some American states you can still be sacked or refused housing (ie a rental you are paying for) if you are gay.
I took that as you saying there was a law prohibiting them, which is not true.
Wait, I need you to define "sacked" please.

Spexxvet 10-03-2011 04:17 PM

One example:

Denying gays equal rights shames us all

http://www.enquirer.com/columns/rade.../101698cr.html

Happy Monkey 10-03-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 760536)
So, just 'rights' then.

Rights that everyone should be able to exercise, but gays can't. So hopefully, it will mean less and less as time goes on.

classicman 10-03-2011 04:22 PM

Spexx, got anything from this millennium?
That story was from 1998 and the issue started in 1992.
I agree that things are not perfect, I don't think they ever will be, but they are much better than they were and DADT is another step in that direction.

Spexxvet 10-03-2011 04:42 PM

Class, there's this new thing on the internet. It's called Google, spelled g-o-o-g-l-e. You can find it at google.com. It'll help you find useful information, and so much more. Use it and learn.

From Feb 24, 2010, lazybones.

http://www.care2.com/causes/housing-...gay-thing.html


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The federal Fair Housing Act currently lists seven classes that are protected from discrimination. These are race, color, national origin, religion, gender, disability and family status. Sexuality and perceived or actual gender identity are not listed

Happy Monkey 10-03-2011 04:47 PM

Proposition 8 was 2008, which seems like a repeat of Spexxvet's story.

And how about amending state constitutions to preclude the possibility of the court recognizing the rights of gays?

That's Spexxvet's story taken to the next level.

Lamplighter 10-03-2011 05:59 PM

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The federal Fair Housing Act currently lists seven classes that are protected from discrimination.
These are race, color, national origin, religion, gender, disability and family status.

Sexuality and perceived or actual gender identity are not listed
But HUD did propose new Rules on housing and all HUD programs on 9/19/11... the same day DADT was repealed

classicman 10-03-2011 06:09 PM

Thats actually where I was headed - thanks Lamp.


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