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xoxoxoBruce 10-11-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 833874)
Elections are to be run by the AustralianAmerican Electoral Commission, hereafter AEC. The AEC only employs citizens who are not, and have not been for five years, a member of a political party.

So you socialist bastards exclude a portion of your population from participating in the process of choosing the candidates for public service, or they will use their job on the Electoral Commission. Shameful, just shameful.
99% of Americans don't participate in the process of choosing the candidates for public service, but they do it of there own free will, by god.
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The AEC creates the electoral rolls. All adults' names are on a list somewhere, and when you vote, your name gets marked. Afterwards, these are checked to make sure everyone voted once and once only.
OMG, national big brother lists, forced voting or off to the gulag. :eek:
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Party members are allowed outside the poling place, but not within six metres...
Well there ya go, you even use the commie spelling of meter. :rolleyes:


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It's not bloody rocket surgery, people. A high school civics class could have come up with this.
Maybe your Nazi high school, but not a free, democratic, god fearin', high school. :p:

ZenGum 10-11-2012 11:44 PM

*giggles*

Gulags? Well, last I heard, the fine for not voting was $20, but I guess if you refuse to pay it, eventually, they'll lock you in prison, and if you try to escape, they can shoot you. I guess we are a bit strict.

Having worked at a few elections, I've seen ballot papers with no valid vote but with anarchy symbols on them or slogans like "If voting could change anything it would be illegal". Some folks really go to town with write-in candidates, mostly international figures.

They still turn up to vote, though, so I guess those death threats work, eh?

Griff 10-12-2012 05:28 AM

Do you feel like your uninformed voters do a better job than our misinformed voters?

ZenGum 10-12-2012 06:07 AM

:lol:

I guess randomising some votes helps keep power diffused. The donkey vote (numbering all boxes in order) seems to be about 1%.

Seriously, compulsory voting forces lazy moderates to vote and so helps discourage extremism in the serious parties.

Stormieweather 10-12-2012 11:47 AM

Rosanne Barr is on the ballot for president down here in Florida. Good heavens...

infinite monkey 10-12-2012 12:03 PM

;)

You know...old Rosey has gotten a lot of bad rap...but that show was so good. I saw the one about domestic violence recently: fisher beats the crap out of Aunt Jackie. I always identified with Jackie, and I think this 'very special episode' was very well done.

Here's a small clip. It just kind of tied together with the domestic violence discussion.

In fact, it all ties in with the fact that though we've come a long way baby, we still have so far to go. If the republicans have their way, we're going to go backwards. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvj48...eature=related

/tangent

Spexxvet 10-12-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 833874)
Dear America,

WTF is wrong with you idiots?

We're idiots.

infinite monkey 10-12-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 833915)
*giggles*

Gulags? Well, last I heard, the fine for not voting was $20, but I guess if you refuse to pay it, eventually, they'll lock you in prison, and if you try to escape, they can shoot you. I guess we are a bit strict.

Having worked at a few elections, I've seen ballot papers with no valid vote but with anarchy symbols on them or slogans like "If voting could change anything it would be illegal". Some folks really go to town with write-in candidates, mostly international figures.

They still turn up to vote, though, so I guess those death threats work, eh?

:D

DanaC 10-12-2012 01:59 PM

Roseanne was an awesome, awesome show. I adored it. Less a 'sitcom' and more of a comedy drama. From that time when American tv was interested in working-class lives. Before everybody moved to loft apartments in New York.

infinite monkey 10-12-2012 02:03 PM

It really was. I'm a sitcom freak anyway...but Roseanne was a step above.

I was watching the one where Dan and Roseanne find the old pot and get high. So funny.

And the kids were excellent actors. Well, DJ not so much, but Becky and Darlene? Wonderful. I love seeing David on there and seeing Johnny Galecki now on Big Bang Theory.

But over here so many AMURCANS hate her because she grabbed her crotch like a baseball player when she sang the National Anthem at a baseball game. I've always said "who the heck asked her to sing the National Anthem? She's not known for being a singer. She's a comedian." So whoever was responsible for that fiasco made damn sure AMURCANS were appalled that'd she do such a thing. Poor taste, I suppose...but WHAT DID THEY EXPECT HER TO DO? Become Whitney Houston or something?

DanaC 10-12-2012 02:12 PM

Oh hell, I love sitcoms generally. When they're good. I don't like the cookie cutter ones that appear in a slew every so often.

Y'know, I think the dislike for her doing the anthem the way she did is an excuse. If they liked her before that then it's a very strange reason to alter that to active disike. On the other hand if they didn't like her before. If they found her a little coarse, and inappropriate and way too in their face for a working woman and a wife, and if she really didn't gel with their expectations and aspirations, then the anthem incident would just symbolize all that.


[eta] Y'know, if you were to judge American society on the cultural product it puts out, you'd be forgiven for thinking it truly is a classless society. That it is not divided into classes, but into the law-abiding and the criminal, the fiscally responsible and the poor. The only class that is spoken of in class terms at all is the middle. Which is apparently where everybody except drug dealers and millionaires lives.

The working class have all but vanished from view. Everybody is either middle-class, or they sit outside of class -what could be described as an underclass.

Cheers, Taxi and Roseanne defined an era in American television culture. Then everything became a little bit shinier and definitions of class altered. Loft-living, beautiful young things learning how to be grown-ups and rarely, if ever, dealing with finicky things like money, or suburban, middle-class family shenannigans. Not sure if the pendulum might not be starting to swing back a little though. Interesting to watch.

infinite monkey 10-12-2012 02:15 PM

True. I know that a lot of men hated her. Mouthy damn woman... ;)

I think I'm going to find all the reruns this weekend.

DanaC 10-12-2012 02:33 PM

Oops sorry. I went in to add a little edit and ended up doubling my post after your reply :p

infinite monkey 10-12-2012 02:36 PM

Have you seen Modern Family? It's a really good show!

ZenGum 10-12-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 834010)
We're idiots.

More Kinder Surprises, that's what you need. Thin the herd some. :D


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