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wolf 11-25-2004 01:36 PM

So much for your midyear resolution. Did you put a buck in the jar?

elSicomoro 11-25-2004 01:44 PM

I think we all needed me to cuss, if only for a minute. And does the piece of shit not deserve it?

wolf 11-25-2004 01:46 PM

If you don't do it on occasion, your intestines will explode, so it is a good idea.

And yes. Good call.

Brown Thrasher 11-26-2004 01:16 PM

I don't claim to be an expert on Zen. However, when studying this interesting philosophy, I thought the teachings of Zen were the search for enlightement.
I was also taught to find enlightenment one must discover nothingness......

alphageek31337 11-27-2004 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Rythm
Duality do exist miss stupid, 4 once duality is vanished, there is none left as dumbass as u r, the basic meaning of each western and eastern philosphy spirtually has been to lessen the widening gap of this duality. as far as making no sense is concerned, why dont u surrender 2 the fact that u simply lacking!

I just worked a double shift, and I'm two scotches deep into myself, so I'm going to attempt to reply to this (after translating, first):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Native English Speaker expressing Mystic R*h*ythm's ideas
Duality does exist, foolish woman, for once duality has vanished the people as ignorant as yourself will simply disappear. The essence of both Eastern and Western philosophies is an attempt to draw the two "opposites" of a duality closer together and to recognize that each part is intricately linked to the other. As a sidenote, with respect to senseless rambling, I must ask why you refuse to acknowledge that your penis is significantly smaller than mine.

Now, my personal understanding of Eastern thought on duality is not actually changing the two components, but simply recognizing them as being two sides of the same coin and that neither may exist without the other. Just as light could not exist without being defined at its borders by darkness, so darkness would cease to be were it not intruded upon occasionally by light. Also, dualities do not exist in conflict (common in western thought, things such as "good vs evil"), but in harmony with each other. One must look at the symbolism of the yin/yang, with each side not pulling against the other, but flowing into it. This deceptively simple little piece of artwork, in fact, almost perfectly illustrates eastern thoughts on the nature of duality and/or opposites.

Also, Mystic Rythm (sic), I have to ask for my own reasons where you are from and what language (if any) do you speak natively?

flippant 11-27-2004 01:37 PM

I Hv Company and laughing we r 2 laughinng much.

Mystic Rythm 11-28-2004 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphageek31337
I just worked a double shift, and I'm two scotches deep into myself, so I'm going to attempt to reply to this (after translating, first):



Now, my personal understanding of Eastern thought on duality is not actually changing the two components, but simply recognizing them as being two sides of the same coin and that neither may exist without the other. Just as light could not exist without being defined at its borders by darkness, so darkness would cease to be were it not intruded upon occasionally by light. Also, dualities do not exist in conflict (common in western thought, things such as "good vs evil"), but in harmony with each other. One must look at the symbolism of the yin/yang, with each side not pulling against the other, but flowing into it. This deceptively simple little piece of artwork, in fact, almost perfectly illustrates eastern thoughts on the nature of duality and/or opposites.

Also, Mystic Rythm (sic), I have to ask for my own reasons where you are from and what language (if any) do you speak natively?

DUALITY AND ITS INDVIDUALISM ARE THE THINGS WITH BOUNDARIES MINGLING INTO EACH OTHER. BUT THEY DO HAVE BOUNDARIES. IT IS JUST SIMPLY HARD TO EXPLAIN LIKE THE DUAL NATURE OF LIGHT IN QUANTUM PHYSICS.
AND I AM NOT GOING 2 PAY U A PENNY FOR UR TRANSLATIONS. ANYWAY THANX 4 THE IDEA U CONVEY IS SAME.

marichiko 11-28-2004 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Rythm
U REALLY DID STUDIED? I AM SORRY 4 MY WORDS. ACTUALLY I AM STUDENT OF PHILOSPHY MYSELF AND I AM HATED (LIKE IN THIS GROUP TOO) FOR MY REVOLUTIONARY IDEAS. ACTUALLY THE ILLUSION OF DUALISM IS SO PROFOUND THAT IT IS MUCH MORE THAN ILLUSION ITSELF. THATS ALL. THE ZEN IS CHILD OF BUDDHISM AND TAOISM BOTH OF WHICH ARE NOT MEANINGFUL YET CONCEAL ALL.



illusion of self
a drop in the waterfall
river flows to sea

wolf 11-28-2004 12:25 PM

Even expressed as a haiku, mystic is still a dumbass who can't spell for shit.

marichiko 11-28-2004 12:55 PM

A+ on poetry interpretation, Wolf! :D

Mystic Rythm 12-05-2004 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf
Even expressed as a haiku, mystic is still a dumbass who can't spell for shit.

AND IMPOTENTS LIKE WOLF WHO CANT SPELL I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-E-N-C-E IN ALL THEY CONVEY

Mystic Rythm 12-05-2004 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
A+ on poetry interpretation, Wolf! :D

"AND IF U WANT TO B HEAD OF STUPID FUCKERS,
TRUST ON THOSE WHO SAY THEY CAN INTERPRET POETRY"


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