The prosecution picked *terrible* witnesses, and either didn't do their homework, or had people flipped behind the scenes.

But is MJ a pedophile? Yeah, I think he is.

it is just the same as the OJ trial. do i think he did some slicing? yup. do i think the prosecution provided an airtight case worthy of conviction? nope. does MJ diddle little boys? yup. has that been sufficiently proven? nope.

Emailed Mike about the verdict (he doesn't have web access from his job) and received the following, which made me gag in my throat a little. :lol:

That's the most disturbing visual I've had in ages.

Am I the only one who heard the various testimonies (as reported in the news) and actually thought, "Wow, maybe he IS innocent?" Maybe the prosecution was incompetent... but if their main witness has sued three or four other people in demonstrably false and/or frivolous lawsuits, perhaps they should have waited? But they HAVE been waiting for the last ten years, and still couldn't come up with anything better.

Is he gay? Yes.
Is he a little freaky? Yes.
Does he molest little boys? I'm really not so sure anymore.

Bad prosecutors in CA can probably be attributed to the fact that you do not need to go to law school to be a licensed attorney in California. You just have to pass the bar. If I'm wrong, correct me, but that's what I was told in law school.

And that, ladies and gentleman, is reasonable doubt, which is why he got off.

The one thing that sticks in my craw is the fact that the kid's mom has tried this multiple times with various companies and celebrities - just kinda made me question the validiy of her/her son's claims - not that i don't think MJ i a complete Wacko....I heard he and OJ and Robert Blake are having dinner tonight to figure out who really did it.

oh, and PS - we're not all idiots. we just play them on TV. :D

I have tried to not follow this, but must admit that I enjoyed Triumph's interviews with MJ supporters.

Oy!

I leave my keyboard for 28 stinkin minutes and youse guys blaze through another 20 posts. Asleep at the switch am I.[/yoda]

I agree with Clodfobble in that I don't know that he necessarily is guilty. He didn't have much of a childhood, was abused as a child, and seems to have some deep psychological issues (as do more of us than would like to admit or think about). It seems absolutely foolish of him to ever put himself in a position that one could see from 10 miles a way ( or several thousand in my case) would create problems. He was in a position that was going to require defending no matter which way you look at it. Healing psychological wounds by trying to reinvent your childhood is going to raise eyebrows no matter how you look at it not to mention the confusion it might cause for children you choose for playmates (in the complete platonic sense of the word). It's hard to look at the history of his accuser's family and see any consistency from the evidence they presented. Who knows, without stepping into Jacko's world (no thanks), I'll never be sure whether he's a rich twisted pervert, or a very lost, pained man trapped in a childhood that never existed.

California. The land of fruits and nuts. Take your own read on that from someone who hauled produce from CA.

One of his better (and more dangerous) stunts. :thumb:

I’ve a theory. Riddlerlife touched on it some, the man has led a screwed up life. I think he was happiest with the least pressure when he was 12 or 13 and wants to pretend he is again, whenever possible.
Unfortunately his little playmates, whatever their motives, have a tough time imagining MJ as being young again. When he starts doing the shit that boys that age do, they can’t get into it. Somehow a circle jerk with a middle aged man doesn’t seem right. :headshake

:lol: :biglaugha :lol2: :thankyou: very well said!!!

Well, I was able to console a coworker. I told him for every guilty man who is found innocent in California, two innocent men are found guilty in Texas, so we are still a law-and-order country.