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jimhelm 09-21-2012 09:55 AM

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#7 is the one I wanted to quote... but the whole list is fookin true

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Gravdigr 09-21-2012 02:37 PM

I was watching TV at Baby's the other night, and her youngest daughter (~23) was there. Some blurb about gov't getting in her business prompted her (daughter) to utter this jewel:

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I don't know much about gov't, or politics, but, I'm pretty sure they need to stay out of my vagina.

xoxoxoBruce 09-24-2012 10:23 PM

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A curmudgeon's reputation for malevolence is undeserved.
...They're neither warped nor evil at heart.
...They don't hate mankind, just mankind's absurdities.

They're just as sensitive and soft-hearted as the next guy, but they hide their vulnerability beneath a crust of misanthropy.
...They ease the pain by turning hurt into humor. . . . . .

They attack maudlinism because it devalues genuine sentiment. . . . . .

Nature, having failed to equip them with a servicable denial mechanism, has endowed them with astute perception and sly wit.
...Curmudgeons are mockers and debunkers whose bitterness is a symptom rather than a disease.

They can't compromise their standards and can't manage the suspension of disbelief necessary for feigned cheerfulness.
...Their awareness is a curse.

Perhaps curmudgeons have gotten a bad rap in the same way that the messenger is blamed for the message:
...They have the temerity to comment on the human condition without apology.
...They not only refuse to applaud mediocrity, they howl it down with morose glee.
...Their versions of the truth unsettle us, and we hold it against them, even though they soften it with humor.
- JON WINOKUR
Now get off the fucking lawn.

BigV 09-25-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 818535)
Inception

How can you tell how many ideas have been forgotten? How can you know this is the most successful parasite when we can only count the successes?

BigV 09-25-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm (Post 831219)
#7 is the one I wanted to quote... but the whole list is fookin true

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OUTSTANDING SIR!

xoxoxoBruce 09-26-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 831809)
How can you tell how many ideas have been forgotten? How can you know this is the most successful parasite when we can only count the successes?

If it was good, it won't be forgotten, and can't be killed.

Gravdigr 09-29-2012 01:46 PM

On Theodore Roosevelt:

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"Look at that magnificent bastard up there. It's like somebody crossbred a walrus with the spirit of war."
~Robert Brockway @ cracked.com

Gravdigr 10-31-2012 03:23 PM

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"My advice is, post unto others as you would have them post unto you."
~Undertoad 10/31/12

infinite monkey 11-01-2012 12:35 PM

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Gravdigr 11-05-2012 04:33 PM

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"We spend the first year teaching them to walk and to talk, and then spend the rest of their lives telling them to shut up and sit down, and that's not what being a kid should be."
~Neil deGrasse Tyson

BigV 11-05-2012 04:41 PM

Word.

Gravdigr 11-07-2012 12:43 PM

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"Colorado will no longer have laws that steer people toward using alcohol, and adults will be free to use marijuana instead if that is what they prefer. And we will be better off as a society because of it."
~Mason Tvert, co-director of the Colorado pro-legalization campaign

Gravdigr 02-07-2013 12:41 PM

Paraphrasing:

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If dogs can do it, you can watch it. Cats aren't like that. Cats are like Baptists. You know they raise hell, you just can't catch 'em at it.
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While all the other guys were off practicing football, I was at home, practicing the guitar. And it paid off, too.

I can kick this guitar sixty yards.
~Jim Stafford

monster 03-26-2013 07:28 AM

saw this in IM's Sig. From Maybell C apparently.

Swans should never despair over ducks not liking them.

exactly. it's a shame it's so hard for so many swans to get past having been an ugly duckling. We need to improve our cygnet pride fostering skills

Gravdigr 04-09-2013 01:46 PM

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"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't."
~Margaret Thatcher

Ocean's Edge 04-10-2013 11:29 AM

Brought to mind by another thread, but didn't want to intrude on anyone's grief..

From a different tavern in a different time and a different place, but still no less a truism
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Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy

Gravdigr 04-19-2013 11:10 AM

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"More things are never tried because they are impossible than are tried because people believe in them." She reached for her stick to stir the fire. "And what kind of world would we have if people believed in the impossible? Think of what we could do. Now, there's a Dream for you."
~ White Calf in "People of the Fire" by W. Michael Gear & Kathleen O'Neal Gear

xoxoxoBruce 04-24-2013 01:36 PM

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"The old scholar was watching the noisy young people around him and it suddenly occurred to him that he was the only one in the whole audience who had the privilege of freedom, for he was old. Only when a person reaches old age can he stop caring about the opinions of his fellows, or of the public, or of the future. He is alone with approaching death and death has no ears and does not need to be pleased. In the face of death a man an do and say what pleases his own self."
--Milan Kundera, from "Life is Elsewhere"

Gravdigr 08-02-2013 03:51 PM

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Mmm, mmm. You smell like the inside of my mama's purse.
~Family Guy

limegreenc 08-02-2013 05:24 PM

or your grandmas' bra...

Old Bunyip 08-02-2013 06:33 PM

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Only when a person reaches old age can he stop caring about the opinions of his fellows, or of the public,

"When I was 20 I worried about what people thought about me.
When I was 40 I couldn't care what they thought of me.
Now I am 60 and I realize they were not thinking about me at all."

Just a joke, but has its own wisdom

BigV 08-03-2013 09:20 AM

Welcome to the cellar Old Bunyip!

Old Bunyip 08-03-2013 06:07 PM

Thank you Big V.
I think I have lurked long enough.
I like your Marcus Aurelius signature, too.

BigV 08-03-2013 08:17 PM

:-)

Thanks for your kind words about my signature, I try to live up to it each day; I confess I am confused a bit about your signature. I find trust to be a necessary part of love. I don't think I can love anyone I don't trust. The converse is true of course, there are many I trust but do not love.

Lastly, I am happy to have you paddle while I steer. :D

Old Bunyip 08-03-2013 09:23 PM

Now you are getting tricky, Big V!
I have had a pretty rugged life where many people who loved me (and I loved) let me down. Proved not worthy of my trust but I loved them for what they were. They did what they thought was best.
Now I try to love or have compassion for "many" but am aware that only "few" are really trustworthy in regard to me.
Hence the "paddling of my own canoe" = I go my own way, not someone else's.
Which means, kind Sir, if you came aboard,you would paddle while I would steer
;)

Clodfobble 08-04-2013 08:38 AM

I'm with Bunyip--there are plenty of people whom I love and accept as flawed individuals, but that doesn't mean that they have my own best interests at heart as well. I don't trust them to do the right thing in certain situations, or maybe even any situation, but I love them nonetheless.

Flint 08-04-2013 09:19 AM

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Love many. Trust few.
Always paddle your own canoe
I couldn't agree more, and couldn't have said it better.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2013 08:42 PM

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Flint 08-11-2013 01:46 AM

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The Great Society asks not how much, but how good;
not only how to create wealth but how to use it;
not only how fast we are going but where we are headed.
--Texas Native, Lyndon Baines Johnson, "LBJ"


He is one of only four people who served in all four elected federal offices of the United States: Representative, Senator, Vice President, and President.

Gravdigr 08-20-2013 04:28 PM

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My life is every moment of my life. It is not a culmination of the past.
~Hugh Leonard

Flint 08-20-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 873866)
My life is every moment of my life. It is not a culmination of the past.
~Hugh Leonard

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Some hang on to used to be
Live their lives looking behind
All we have is here and now
All our lives, out there to find
'Up Where We Belong' --Jennings/Nitzsche/Sainte-Marie

Gravdigr 08-30-2013 11:48 AM

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Make your life, don't wait for it.
~Gravdigr

Gravdigr 09-27-2013 01:52 PM

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Nothing is over, until you choose to give up.
~Richard Phillips, Capt. of the Maersk Alabama, which was hijacked by Somali pirates April 2009 - in Sept. 22 issue of Parade magazine



ETA: Here's a link to the Parade Magazine mini-interview w/Richard Phillips & Tom Hanks, who plays Phillips in the film "Captain Phillips".

It's a decent read.

limegreenc 09-27-2013 09:05 PM

“We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

xoxoxoBruce 09-27-2013 11:10 PM

Nietzsche never saw me dance. xoxoxoBruce

Gravdigr 11-21-2013 11:19 AM

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We are always the same age inside.
~Gertrude Stein


I find this to be true, in my case. Even today, I still feel like I am 20-ish. Not physically, by any means, not even emotionally. Would that be spiritually, then?

glatt 11-21-2013 11:22 AM

You feel 20? Old man.

I still feel like I'm 9.

Gravdigr 12-13-2013 02:25 PM

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"I love my fans and have devoted my life to reaching out to them. I appreciate their support all these years and I hope I haven't let them down. I am at peace. I love Jesus. I'm going to be just fine. Don't worry about me. I'll see you again one day."
~Ray Price

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Ray Price -- one of the most beloved country performers of all time -- has decided to end aggressive treatments for his long battle of pancreatic cancer, electing to return to his home [Mount Pleasant, Texas] under hospice care than stay in the hospital.
~Billboard

Gravdigr 01-16-2014 03:21 PM

He died three days later. When the man was done, he was done.

I admire that.

Gravdigr 01-31-2014 12:02 PM

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A man can't ride your back unless it's bent.
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Gravdigr 01-31-2014 05:44 PM

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According to a 2011 survey by Travelodge, about 35 percent of British adults still sleep with a teddy bear.
~ Wikipedia article on 'Comfort Object'

footfootfoot 02-04-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 891672)


We're just good friends!
That bear lies!

Gravdigr 02-10-2014 11:28 AM

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"(Only) if everybody else stayed home."
~Richard Petty (upon being asked if Danica Patrick will ever win a NASCAR Cup race)

Gravdigr 03-06-2014 11:46 AM

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No one is useless in this world who lightens the burden of it to anyone else.
~Charles Dickens

DanaC 03-06-2014 12:12 PM

Oh that's lovely.

Gravdigr 03-13-2014 02:16 PM

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"One of the most disappointing regrets of my career is not having the Medal of Honor awarded to the most outstanding soldier I've ever had the privilege of commanding."
~Maj. Gen. Lloyd B. Ramsey (U.S. Army, retired), speaking (in an affidavit) of the late Lt. Garlin Murl Conner, Clinton County, KY, the second-most highly decorated soldier of World War II*, who, it appears, will not be receiving the Medal Honor, due to a filing technicality.:mad:

*The most highly decorated being Audie Murphy.

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2014 04:21 PM

Bummer, but He doesn't care now.

And the people who claim they're doing it for him, where've you been for 70 years? Day late and a dollar short, people, what did you do for him when he was alive? Take him to a ball game, or feed the ducks at the park, maybe just sit and talk to him. He was 79 and in poor health when he died, I'm sure he could have used some company the last year or three.

Gravdigr 03-13-2014 04:31 PM

His wife has been working on this for 17 years. She didn't know there was a statute of limitations on it. And as far as 'company the last year or three', nowhere does it say he died alone or lonely.

Also: Regarding "he doesn't care now", I seriously doubt Conner was the kind of man who would've worried about a medal.

I have to admit to being a little baffled by the perceived tone of Bruce's post. Perhaps I've inadvertently struck a nerve...

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2014 10:35 PM

Reading about this guy, and all the shit he did, I think he got short changed, but didn't strike me as the type of guy that felt entitled to the CM or resented not getting it. Now he's dead so he doesn't care either way.

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His wife has been working on this for 17 years.
Sure, a good ewe wife will do that you know.
17 years... wonder why? Did he ask her to? For him? For her? Doing it out of love? Perceived obligation?

Two military historians dug into it, talked to witnesses, are thoroughly convinced the man deserved it. But back in the day he pissed somebody off, or they decided he had enough medals, or they were busy trying to get home. Out of sight out of mind, war's over, let's get on with life.

You can, however, bet the farm, when this stuff makes the news the politicians will be front and center smiling for the camera and shaking his hand off. And Ramsey, how did he help besides dictating a glowing appraisal?

I've seen so many of these WW II vets struggle with health issues for their last few years. They get isolated for lack of mobility, friends are dropping like flies, and the TV becomes their companion. Then they die and people who hadn't given them a thought come out of the woodwork singing hosannas.

I certainly don't want you to think I have anything against Conner, far from it. He was a hero in the finest sense of the word, and got shortchanged. But the people rushing to "honor" him, make me wonder what their motive is? How will what they are doing to "honor" him, help them? :eyebrow:

wanderer 03-14-2014 05:27 AM

Moo may represent an idea, but only the cow knows.

- Mason Cooley

DanaC 03-15-2014 03:16 PM

I could fill a page with quotes from the late, great Tony Benn. They just don't make them like that any more.

The Guardian's been putting together favourite Benn quotes, here's a couple:

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7) “Hope is the fuel of progress and fear is the prison in which you put yourself”

Tony Benn thought any meaningful change could only come from below, and felt apathy was openly encouraged by those in positions of power. “The Prime Minister said in 1911, 14 years before I was born, that if women get the vote it will undermine parliamentary democracy. How did apartheid end? How did anything happen?”

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6) “I think there are two ways in which people are controlled. First of all frighten people and secondly, demoralise them.”

Another quote from Tony Benn’s interview with Michael Moore in Sicko, in which he highlighted poverty and healthcare inequality as a democratic issue. “The people in debt become hopeless, and the hopeless people don’t vote... an educated, healthy and confident nation is harder to govern,” he said.
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9) “There is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. Both kill innocent people for political reasons.”

After his retirement from parliament, Benn became the public face of the Stop the War coalition. In a particularly spiky edition of BBC Question Time, his exchanges with US Republican John Bolton included this broadside:

I was born about a quarter of a mile from where we are sitting now and I was here in London during the Blitz. And every night I went down into the shelter. 500 people killed, my brother was killed, my friends were killed. And when the Charter of the UN was read to me, I was a pilot coming home in a troop ship: ‘We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind.’ That was the pledge my generation gave to the younger generation and you tore it up. And it’s a war crime that’s been committed in Iraq, because there is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. Both kill innocent people for political reasons.

From elsewhere:

"When you think of the number of men in the world who hate each other, why, when two men love each other, does the church split?"

On equal marriage and the Church of England.

Sundae 03-15-2014 03:51 PM

I admired and even venerated Tony Benn for as long as I've been politically aware.
Of course there were views he held which I didn't; and he never set himself up as some sort of guru that would have demanded it. In fact he would have been revolted by it.

But I have to say in later years it was the way he tied an anti-war message with terrorism which conflicted my views with his.

I can't pull rank. He lived through the Blitz, and through The Troubles.

So if he really felt that Western intervention in Iraq was the reason for Muslims to kill each other, or go overseas and kill civilians (the way the IRA killed other Christians) then I might be missing something.

I'll never deny his was a powerful voice though.
And the world need more like him.
Born privileged, privately and expensively educated.

DanaC 03-15-2014 04:15 PM

Oh, I disagreed with Benn on lots of things. His stance on Europe, for one.

xoxoxoBruce 03-15-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 894739)
I could fill a page with quotes from the late, great Tony Benn.

The other day I was impressed with...
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In the course of my life I have developed five little democratic questions. If one meets a powerful person--Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin or Bill Gates--ask them five questions:
“What power have you got?
Where did you get it from?
In whose interests do you exercise it?
To whom are you accountable?
And how can we get rid of you?”
If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.

Sundae 03-15-2014 04:42 PM

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Born privileged, privately and expensively educated
That was supposed to have a smiley; to comment on where and when and what situation he was born in is completely unfair.

But, yes,
The man dedicated his life to working in politics outside of the strictures of Westminster, which was why he never was all that successful inside it.
If'n you call making a Minister, even a Shadow Minister unsuccessful.

Every interview I've heard, from Red Ken, Degsy and many others on the other side of the political spectrum, they've said they may not have agreed with him on everything. But they got to meet the man, and talk to him, be charmed by him, drink tea with him. And I envy them that.

Clodfobble 03-16-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae
So if he really felt that Western intervention in Iraq was the reason for Muslims to kill each other, or go overseas and kill civilians (the way the IRA killed other Christians) then I might be missing something.

I wasn't very familiar with the guy, and he may have said other things to indicate he believed this... but based on the quotes above, I got the impression that he wasn't saying we caused their behavior, just that we were no better than them.

Griff 03-16-2014 07:45 AM

Sounds like a sharp mind, I guess he bears further reading.

xoxoxoBruce 03-18-2014 01:00 AM

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.

In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare,”

– James Madison, “Political Observations” from Letters and Other Writings.

xoxoxoBruce 03-18-2014 11:17 PM

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Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter-faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn.

To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living.

Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food. The body, these waterheads imagine, is a temple that should not be polluted by animal protein. It’s healthier, they insist, though every vegetarian waiter I’ve worked with is brought down by any rumor of a cold.

Oh, I’ll accomodate them, I’ll rummage around for something to feed them, for a ‘vegetarian plate’, if called on to do so. Fourteen dollars for a few slices of grilled eggplant and zucchini suits my food cost fine.
Anthony Bourdain
:haha:

Gravdigr 03-20-2014 02:56 PM

Bravo, Mr. Bourdain.


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