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Aliantha 11-23-2008 02:26 PM

I don't know too many kids here who'd want to squish a lady bird. I know when I was kid I used to want to look at them and let them crawl on my finger etc and I used to try to look for the different types of patterns on them too.

Some kids just have a killer instinct I guess.

ZenGum 11-23-2008 10:49 PM

Well, you obviously don't have venomous ladybirds over there. The ones here will knock you stone cold dead inside of twenty minutes if they so much as touch your skin. And they love the taste of human sweat, too, so it's kill or be killed.

SteveDallas 11-23-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 506711)
He knew me from
  • the school play
  • the carol concert
  • and the athletics team

No wonder you didn't have time to finish your homework! :angel:

Aliantha 11-24-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 507402)
Well, you obviously don't have venomous ladybirds over there. The ones here will knock you stone cold dead inside of twenty minutes if they so much as touch your skin. And they love the taste of human sweat, too, so it's kill or be killed.

You really shouldn't scare the foreigners like that Zen. lol You know they'll believe anything you tell them. ;)

BigV 12-02-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 506714)
Well it'd be a shame if my son happened to read that people would prefer to think the worst when he's trying to do his best.

Also, it's not so much that the comment was made. It's the person who decided it'd be funny to do so in the first place. It's pretty hard for me to believe that it came from the 'goodness of her heart' and not just her taking an opportunity to be nasty once again.

Such is life. Some things never change.

Aden will develop a method to cope with this reaction, because it will be with him always. Personally, I think his response as described in his note should be sincere, regardless of his motive. If he is indeed so compassionate as to be moved to violence over the death of a slug, bully for him. If he's a young master of manipulation, that's great too. He'll have to live with either one, it doesn't matter which.

What I want to get across is that he should be true to himself, period. Because if he's a "goody two shoes" some people will disbelieve their eyes and suspect him. If he's a deceitful trickster, good people will be fooled. It is impossible to satisfy them all. Others will see what ever they want to see in his actions. Let those actions be true.

Personally, I think he's got a good heart and honestly believed the slug was murdered. Good on him. May I offer this?
Quote:

Do good anyway...

"In the Final Analysis"

by Mother Teresa

People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered...
forgive them anyway


If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish ulterior motives...
be kind anyway


If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies...
succeed anyway


If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you...
be honest and frank anyway


What you may spend years building, someone may destroy overnight...
build anyway


If you find serenity and happiness, people may be jealous...
be happy anyway


The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow...
do good anyway


Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough...
give the world the best you have anyway


You see, in the final analysis, it's all between you and God...
it was never between you and them anyway.
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Originally Posted by binky (Post 506736)
I do believe he cares for animals, of all sorts, because my daughter does too.The same year asthe snailslaughter incident, she was nearly late for school one day, rescuing earthworms that had washed into the street during a rainstorm.

Me too. Yesterday morning in fact.

Aliantha 12-09-2008 06:09 PM

Last night at his graduation my son won the maths award. We were so proud. We were all fairly certain he was going to get it because he's been achieving outstanding results all year, but it was nice for him to be rewarded for his efforts.

I don't know what happens at Primary school graduations in other schools or countries, but last night was a dinner dance type affair with speaches and awards etc. All the kids had a great time, but it was a long night for all considering it went for 4 hours.

One thing I was shocked about, and I have to say, was the way some of the girls were dressed. Seriously, is it normal for them to be wearing designer style dresses with diamonte necklaces and earings with full make up? On top of that, to arrive in a stretch limo? I seriously could not believe my eyes. They nearly fell out on the table at some of them. Of course there were some who were dressed modestly as 12 year old girls should be in my opinion, but I just could not believe my eyes. I could not believe that their parents felt it was ok for them to dress like that either. Most of them don't even have boobs yet ffs.

Anyway, it was an experience for me that's for sure. I'll be having a talk to my sons about the way some of the kids were dressed and see what he thinks. He just had on a long sleeved collared shirt with dark pants and leather shoes. He chose to 'be cool' and not tuck his shirt and have his sleeves rolled up much to my dismay. There were quite a number of boys who chose a similar style of dress though, so I guess that's the fashion these days.

I'm getting old. I must be.

classicman 12-09-2008 09:16 PM

Welcome to the "old" club. Good job sonofA and mom!

dar512 12-09-2008 11:24 PM

I don't know that I'd call it "normal". Even now I reserve the right to veto an outfit - and have. But there were some kids (and parents) that went way overboard on the eighth grade graduation.

Aliantha 12-11-2008 04:53 PM

OK, this post is just a sickening brag about myself and my boys, but I'm showing you anyway.

For Christmas, I gave Aden's two teachers a gift voucher for a nights accomodation at Binna Burra eco resort. It's way more than I would normally spend on a gift for a teacher, but these two ladies have had Aden for two years now and I think they've done a spectacular job with his education. They've helped him become the mature and responsible young man he is now and because of their guidance, discipline and support, he's going to enter high school with a solid base of knowledge which should stand him in good stead.

So anyway, here comes the brag bit. This was the email response I recieved this morning from one of the teachers:

Hi Trish,



Aden gave me your Christmas card and voucher today. I'm speechless! Honestly, and I don't need to tell you that you didn't need to give me anything. Thank you for your astonishing generosity and kind words.



I feel incredibly privileged to have had Aden in my class for my first two years as a teacher. I mean it. I think he's awesome. He's the perfect mix of boyish and deep, and the perfect mix of super-confident and humble, and of cheeky and sweet. I love his stories.



You've done such a great job with your boys. You should hear the CHSS staff talk about them! Everyone thinks that both of them are stunning, in every way. They're exceptional. I think you should write a book on parenting – imagine a world full of kids that turn out like Aden and Mav. Almost as cool as a world affected by Aden and Mav.



I also have to say how much I've enjoyed communicating with you during the past two years. Your emails are funny as well as insightful. I've really appreciated it.



Thanks again!

- Diana

dar512 12-11-2008 05:13 PM

Nice. Don't forget to tell the boys how proud you are.

Aliantha 12-11-2008 05:18 PM

I tell them all the time dar. :) I think the fact that they get positive feedback from us at home all the time is what helps them be such good students and people in general.

If/when I lose my temper and say something negative, I can always see very clearly what a terrible impact it has on them immediately. I'm not one of those pop psychology mothers though. I believe very much in corporal punishment in some circumstances, but I find it's very rarely needed if kids know you mean it when you say it's coming.

Anyway, watch out for the book. lol I'm sure most people would find my parenting style to be quite controversial so maybe it'd be a best seller.

kerosene 12-11-2008 09:51 PM

I admire you, Ali. Now I wanna move to Australia so you can teach me how to make Christmas cake.

Aliantha 12-13-2008 09:08 PM

YOu don't need me to teach you case. I put the recipe up in the food forum. ;)

kerosene 12-13-2008 09:16 PM

Yes, but I was hoping to use the Christmas cake as an excuse just to go to Australia and hang with ya.

Aliantha 12-13-2008 09:27 PM

Oh cool! Well you just let me know whenever you're ready. :) I'll even supply the ingredients and somewhere to crash.

BigV 05-12-2011 03:58 PM

I have enjoyed my rereading of this thread immensely. I'd like to hear more from some of the folks who've posted here about their more recent adventures in parenting. Some are still around, some are not. I'm still around, and so is SonofV. We had this wonderful exchange the other day.

We'd been talking about stuff that goes on in his life; you all know I strive to keep in touch with what's going on with them. Some of the influences in his life are bringing new ideas to his attention. I'm all for him learning about new things, but I do worry that he might misinformed or mislead. It didn't quite rise to the level of a sermon, but I wanted to communicate to him the importance of keeping an open mind, the importance of understanding the motivation of the source, and the importance of thinking for himself. That's what I thought I was getting across, but I know there was a lot of blah blah blah in the middle there...

I asked him if he understood and his response was "Yeah. Evaluate, adapt, execute."

I almost drove off the road.

That was so poetic, so appropriate, so accurate, I wondered where he'd heard it. It wasn't me. (I'm *totally* stealing it though.) I asked him to post it to my facebook wall so I wouldn't forget it (I was driving after all and I wanted to make sure I remembered it.) I later tried to find where he'd read it or heard it... I couldn't find such a reference that was the likely source, so I'm going to credit his own cognition.

Evaluate, adapt, execute. Words to live by.

Flint 05-12-2011 06:10 PM

Great! I'm using that one also!

lookout123 05-12-2011 06:19 PM

That's fantastic. I've heard similar (but not exact) phrases in sales and military training. Most excellent analysis and extraction by SonofV.

Lamplighter 03-19-2012 09:53 AM

My G-daughter is 8, and has been living in Central Oregon til recently.
As G-parents we're often not up to date what her Mom has told her about sex or staying safe, etc.

There's an ad running on TV now I've only heard twice.
I still don't know what it's about, but this morning an idea struck me
as being simple enough for kids of all ages to get a safety message, without being scary.

In the ad, a woman's voice says:
"Never trust anyone who tells you to keep a secret"

As a parent I'd add something like:
"If anyone does, come tell me about it... no secrets between us"
.

B-Tay 03-25-2012 05:21 PM

My son is 7-1/2 and a S.F. Giants fan. We are traveling to Florida next week for Spring Break and I mentioned to him "hey we are in Florida when baseball season starts. Maybe if we are lucky the Giants are playing the Marlins" and he said that he hates the Marlins because "they hurt Buster Posey".

Note to self: this kid knows how to hold a grudge.

BigV 03-26-2012 08:42 AM

Ouch.



I hope your son and you do get to enjoy some baseball. Even rooting against can be fun.

BigV 08-01-2013 12:35 PM

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This was just before the election five years ago when the candidates for president debated each other.
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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 491765)
Yesterday SonofV brightened my day with this unsolicited announcement, delivered with a touch of surprise (or perhaps that was me projecting...):

"Nobody in my class watched the debate last night!"

I must say I was proud of his pique. The night before we'd all watched the debate together, and he was hanging in there with us (Tink and me), listening to what they said, and generally copying our reactions. We all went for a walk after the program and I used the quiet time to ask him some questions about the debate. I can't remember the exact dialog, but he answered them all handily.

I asked him what the debate was all about, and he said they were trying to persuade people. What do you mean, persuade? You know, like if I asked you to loan me $50, and I said because I needed it that would be persuading. What people? The people in the audience and everybody in the country. I was astounded at this perceptive answer. How are they trying to persuade the people? (paraphrasing here, sorry) I'm going to be a good president, and the other guy is a poopyhead. Basically he understood that persuading can be effective as a pull and as a push.

I did have to check his enthusiasm when he answered one of my first questions "What did you think of McCain?" "He's a dick." ::eek: Ahh... no. He's not a dick, he wants the best for the country, but I don't agree with his choices or with his methods. SonofV shocked me with his, ahem, candor. I tried to get him back up out of the mud. I think there is no permanent damage.

Fast forward almost five years ---->

Mom(ofV) and SonofV filling out their ballots for the primary election, SonofV's first!
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SonofV diligently reading the voter's pamphlet, learning about the candidates for mayor. Though he liked the name of one candidate, "Goodspaceguy" (Yes, really.), he didn't like much else about him and voted for someone else.
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The three of us in a wobbly, poorly aimed selfie, but I'm as proud as I can be!
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Sundae 08-01-2013 01:13 PM

V I felt I missed the chance to comment on your green beard by the time I saw it.
But I did think you looked mighty fine.

This time I can comment not just on physical appearance, but on your most excellent family and values too.
Good on you and Mum and Son-of-V.
Even if your candidate doesn't win you have taken on the yoke of elective democracy. This is cool potatoes.

BTW, I'm only buttering you up so that when I win a plane ticket to Seattle you will introduce me to some roller-derby-girlz :rolleyes:

ETA of course that's not true. Except for wanting to be introduced.
And the bit about the butter.

Aliantha 08-01-2013 06:14 PM

Very cool. :)

Clodfobble 08-03-2013 07:58 PM

Minifob's new bedtime habit is to fall asleep listening to NPR. He doesn't understand half (or more) of what they're talking about, of course, but he loves to try.

Flint 08-03-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 872307)
Minifob's new bedtime habit is to fall asleep listening to NPR. He doesn't understand half (or more) of what they're talking about, of course, but he loves to try.

This is what I refer to, in parenting terms, as "rad" or "totally rad"



The mini-Pooka informed us, months ago, mid-Kindergarten, that reading at night "helps her mind to settle down," so that she can go to sleep.

I told her, "I do the same thing!"

I don't know when I learned this trick, but I damn well know that it wasn't anywhere near Kindergarten.

The kids got something frighteningly smarter than I am, in their mother's genes.

Sundae 08-04-2013 04:23 AM

During these long, light nights I've found my choice of reading material (or occasional TV series) influences my dreams. Given I've been watching Hannibal and The Returned, and reading crime novels, I've certainly not been settled down :(

Mini-Pooks probably hasn't been reading about evisceration underground in the Peak District though.

I've taken to listening to (BBC Sports Radio) 5 Live at night. I tend to wake up at 02.00 to find the radio is still softly on, talking about rugby or cricket somewhere in the Southern hemisphere. I'm like Minifob - barely understand it, but it's a comforting sound.

BigV 04-18-2015 05:40 PM

An exchange of texts last night that makes me think I'm doing something right
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SonofV
Dad

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonofV
My ears are in love

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Originally Posted by Me
Do tell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonofV
Sarah Vaughn, has a voice and musical talent made in heaven

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonofV
She sings along with the music so perfectly that I'm in awe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
As well you should be, she is a legendary talent.

What song?

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Originally Posted by SonofV
September song

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonofV
That's the type of jazz I love

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Originally Posted by Me
Cool.


Gravdigr 04-19-2015 03:37 PM

Off to check out "September Song".

A kid that age liking Sarah Vaughan, that's a little reassuring.

DanaC 04-20-2015 04:44 AM

Pretty damned impressive V.

Has he listened to any Miles Davis at all?

classicman 04-25-2015 11:51 AM

BigV "think I'm doing something right"
Was there doubt at some point????

Gravdigr 04-25-2015 02:08 PM

I thought, that, as a parent, there was always doubt.

Like "Is this the one that grows up to be a serial killer?".

classicman 04-29-2015 05:24 PM

no, thats my nephew. He even has the crazy eyes...


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