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I can imagine the posts if Obama had NOT won the Nobel Peace Prize:
Classicman: "That Liberal can't win his way out of a paper bag" Merc: "My drill sargeant could have won the peace prize but that loser Obama couldn't" tw: "upper management mba it was bush's fault" UG: "He didn't win because he wasn't packing. Oh, and liberals are out to enslave the world" |
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The Unknown Dwellar: "It's just really stoopid that the stoopid guy who is runing are world is to stoopid to win the Noble prize thing. Oh and hes a black guy so hes even more stoopid for not wining. |
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That would be awesome!! They wouldn't even have to pay tax on it. |
My scan of the conservative blogosphere (blogosfear?) reveals a trend towards happiness on conservatives' part over the award based on the idea it forces one to consider what exactly he won it for, what precisely his peace achievements are. They feel this leads to a "wtf?" assessment from which Obama emerges damaged. There is consistency in the ridicule, though it fluxuates between ridiculing Obama, the Nobel Foundation, and/or both.
My scan of the liberal blogosphere reveals reactions all over the road, from pride over a deserving, well-thought out award to responses indiscernible from the conservative reactions. The implication is clear: Philadelphia will win the Stanley Cup this season. |
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Spexxvet: "They wouldn't let him win it because he's black." |
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"That's pretty amazing, winning the Nobel Peace Prize," Jay Leno said. "Ironically, his biggest accomplishment as president so far ... winning the Nobel Peace Prize."
The Times quotes Bob Lichter, "Is there now a caricature taking hold of a man more celebrated than accomplished? The danger is that Mr. Obama is going to be defined by inaction and not living up to expectations," he said. SNL skit: Obama has done nothing |
Jimmy Carter, Yasur Arafat, Al Gore, Barack Obama. Ha ha ha ha ha. Watch the Oscars for the winner. Another useless awards show.
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I can't find the link just now, but apparently people are going to ESPN's ongoing fan Vote For The Heisman! site and voting for Barack Obama.
Nobel Peace Prize? Eh. But if he wins the Heisman, I'll be impressed. |
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For the tinfoil hat crowd, the following may prove interesting. BTW its from a Muslim based blog for whatever that may be worth:
"However, all of this is really beside the point, since it assumes that the Nobel Prize remains an "award" when in fact it is no such thing. It is actually a shrewd vehicle for influencing the power elite, and as such represents an attempt to lobby Obama and influence him over the course of his next term(s). The decsion of who gets a Nobel Peace Prize, and just as importantly who doesn't, is an explicit editorial statement. That President Bush was not awarded one* was a rebuke of the unilateral, pre-emptive, diplomacy-averse doctrine that bears his name. But with Obama, it is an attempt to shape the doctrine yet to be." - blog.beliefnet.com |
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All of those people, including Yassir Arafat, are more accomplished and important than a useless turd like you will ever be. Jimmy Carter is practically a saint. His awards for humanitarian efforts, environmentalism, disarmament and development, arbitration, and the promotion of non-violence and peace include...
Jimmy Carter has done more unselfish acts of kindness to improve the world than any 10 Republicans you can name combined. Al Gore won the election for the presidency. He exposed the irrefutable, indisputable, scientific fact that man-made global warming is real in an accurate, truthful, honest, and scientifically sound movie that won an Acadamy Award, and he deservedly won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in bringing about international cooperation in dealing with something that is very likely to end all life on earth if nothing is done. President Obama's efforts to close Gitmo, and reverse the horrible foreign policy of his treasonous predecessor while reaching out to other nations in an effort to repair our damaged reputation and moral standing in the world greatly increase peace in the world. Yassir Arafat was the leader of a terrorist organization, but he's come the closest of any Palestinian leader to bringing lasting peace to that part of the world when he publicly stated that Israel had a right to exist in peace and security and he very nearly got Israel to agree to return to the 1949 armistice lines while recognizing a state of Palestine. This is the closest to true peace those people have ever been. And you? You're just a loudmouthed douchebag with a chip on your shoulder and nothing to back it up. |
I certianly would agree that it is hard to argue against the post-presidential (and vp) contributions of recent Democrats....the Carter Center, the Clinton Global Initiative, and the (Gore) Alliance for Climate Protection.
Poor Bill, the only one now without a Nobel. Looking forward to the Bush post-presidential legacy. |
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ESPN is reporting that President Obama watched 2 quarters of a football game and is being nominated for a Heisman Trophy. Just a little levity folks. Oh, and Carter is a saint! He is one of the most genuinely kind souls on the planet. Didn't like him much as a pres tho. I'm glad he's found his calling. |
Carter was too nice to be president! I agree that he has done some wonderful things.
Hey, dude, we agreed on something. ;) |
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At least he is one of the few true Americans that can claim to be a true African-American.:D |
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I've got dickweed all over my lawn. I'm gonna have to take out the weed whacker.
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Wouldn't it be meaner to call a guy a "weed-dick?"
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Hey Spexxvet you should check out this breaking news!!!!
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Radar, you were the one who said, last November, that you voted for Barack Obama -- on the grounds that he was not just the more libertarian candidate, but the "most libertarian." That's a matter of Cellar record, and of normal memory also. I know what that says about your ability at politics -- and you don't. The one person on the planet who thinks you have any standing to lecture anyone on politics is you -- and your declared vote declares you are wrong. You have an enormity of fault to admit, one quantifiable in the trillions of federal deficit dollars. Will you? I know what to expect. Libertarians are generally impelled to be economic literates, but what you did was vote your crazed anti-Republican prejudices, and dissemble as to the reasons. That for your integrity! No wonder you left the Libertarian Party; doubtless your departure was not attended with any regrets in any quarter -- you picked the Democratic Party to run with. Perhaps you should change your handle to Lampwick.
And unlike you, I was wise enough to vote against this Socialist Democrat. I expect to continue to outthink you. 05 Nov 08, #13 -- not a lucky number for you, old son. |
UG: You couldn't outthink my dog.
I stand by what I said. There was no candidate who was more libertarian or who would have done anything to make government any smaller than it is right now on the ballot than President Obama. If you disagree, all you can offer is conjecture and opinion. And we all know your opinions are worthless, and you don't know a tenth of what I do when it comes to politics, civics, history, the Constitution, or pretty much anything else. You're just a useless fuck with a big mouth and nothing to back it up. The health care reform proposed by President Obama is not socialist. If you claim it is, you prove your own stupidity. |
Careful Radar, he's got a knife. :unsure:
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Do we need to get MTP to tell you two to hug again?
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.Aided and abetted the Islamic terrorist movement by kissing Khomeini's ass while disowning America's only Islamic ally .Highest inflation rate in my lifetime(63 years) .Weakened our military and intelligence agencies .Debated Reagan like a little boy trying to justify his tantrums .Won the "I didn't get re-elected award" hands down, based on performance. That award was given by an overwhelming majority of the American people, not by you, the Oslo committee, or the acadamy awards. Al Gore didn't win the election for the presidency. He exposed the irrefutable, indisputable, scientific fact that man-made global warming is not real in an inaccurate, untruthful, dishonest, and scientifically unsound movie that won an Acadamy Award, and he deservedly won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in bringing about international coercion in dealing with something that is very likely to set him up financially for life. President Obama's efforts to close Gitmo, and reverse the foreign policy of his predecessor while reaching out to other nations in an effort to repair our damaged reputation and moral standing in the world greatly increase peace in the world. I will repeat myself. Ha ha ha. Afghanistan and Pakistan are certainly more peaceful since he took over. Yassir Arafat was the leader of a terrorist organization, but he's come the closest of any Palestinian leader to bringing lasting peace to that part of the world when he publicly stated that Israel had a right to exist in peace and security and he very nearly got Israel to agree to return to the 1949 armistice lines while recognizing a state of Palestine. This is the closest to true peace those people have ever been. In case you didn't notice, Arafat stated publicly one thing while doing the opposite. If you choose to believe the words of a murdering lying terrorist, it just tells me that besides being the names you accuse me of being, you are more of a loudmouthed feminine device with a chip on your shoulder and nothing to back it up than all the other treasonous bottom feeders that you adore. Goodbye.:headshake |
Keep lying douchebag. Nobody but the retarded buy into your lies and idiotic propaganda.
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There has to be a smilie for that.
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I was hoping one of you internet wizards would post one.
well so much for that hope :O( |
I don't think Radar likes me.:)
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Why do you say that? He referred to you as "spring fresh"
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I'm afraid Radar's claim to being a libertarian has been exposed by his use of name calling when his bullshit is exposed. Typical liberal tactic.
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Hey...I dont want him on my team. :headshake |
First, I don't use name calling when my bullshit is exposed because I have posted zero bullshit.
I use it to drive home a clear point about those who are taking a position that is contrary to freedom, liberty, equality, truth, honor, justice, the U.S. Constitution and common sense...for instance the series of lies by spudcon in post #155 about Al Gore and the illegal war in Afghanistan that was inherited by President Obama while dishonestly discounting the valuable and important work President Obama has done to increase peace in the world by opening lines of communication and practicing diplomacy rather than idiotic cowboy tactics that increase terrorism and decrease American security as George W. Bush did. |
I think that the award of the Peace Prize to President Obama speaks more to the rest of the worlds perception of the United States and our implementation of Foreign Policy under the eight years of the last President.
United States Centric thinking Americans are wondering "What the fuck did this guy get the Peace Prize for?" The award of the Prize, and the overwhelming reaction of Americans to wonder why, speak large volumes to our poor understanding of the rest of the world, and I think to our arrogance and detriment. But hey, it is more important who is playing in the World Series, and how long the commute to work is, right? The rest of the world, what ever that is, just isn't that important...unless those gas prices start to go up again..those selfish bastards. |
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No, Radar, no normal person here thinks you have "posted zero bullshit.¨ You are quite, quite alone in that view, and it will stay that way too, since Obama's policies occupy a quasar's distance from Libertarianism. And you can't conduct a forensic argument. What an incapacity to have. "I reject your reality. . ." old son. This is because I have a normal brain, with a normal sort of personality. I live elsewhere than the suffocating confines of the Radar-verse. History tells us Radar is wrong. Radar is not allowed his own facts nor his own history. Radar must, but is too horribly stupid in too many important ways, to admit his egregious, monstrous, silly, totalitarianism-enabling mistake. He's had this coming. |
UG doesn't have a normal brain, or much of any brain for that matter. He has narcissistic personality disorder and pathological lying disorder and he constantly practices psychological displacement and transference. He has an abrasive, rude, and disgusting personality and the intellect of a flea. He lacks honor, integrity, character, honesty, education, courage, logic, and reason.
He is completely ignorant of history, politics, science, linguistics, current events, the U.S. Constitution, the founders and the principles that guided them when they created America, and pretty much anything related to geopolitical conditions and their roots. He thinks he is important and he speaks for others on this board, for instance when he denies the fact that I haven't ever lied or posted bullshit on this, or any other website, he follows it up by telling me what everyone else on the board believes. UG doesn't know the meaning of the word libertarian, yet he claims to be one. He has no connection to reality, and his thoughts, when he rarely has them, are backwards, twisted, and based on fallacies. He has nothing to back up any of his arguments, which is the opposite of me because I back up each and every single thing I say with sound logic, reason, accurate historical record, and verifiable facts. He's a gutless, sad, and pathetic little man who thinks if someone doesn't agree with his stupidity, dishonesty, and ridiculous propaganda, "he can't man up and admit his mistake" In his warped and delusional world, he knows what libertarian is, but here in reality on the planet earth, libertarianism is sort of a scale with authoritarianism (fascism, communism, etc.) on one side and freedom on the other. Many of the less intelligent Republicans like to think they are libertarians, but they are not. Barack Obama is not a libertarian, but he is more libertarian than John McCain, Bob Barr, Hillary Clinton, or any of the other candidates that were running for office. That is to say he supports freedoms more than they do...both economic and personal freedoms. UG can't see this because like the witless Republican dickheads he is stupid enough to believe are libertarians, he can only see the economic side of things. Over the years, my exchanges with UG have become boring and tedious. At first I really enjoyed having a little Republican puppet like him so I could intellectually squash him like a bug. I effortlessly destroyed every single one of his feeble attempts to debate or make arguments in seconds. I still can, but it hardly seems worth the effort to type it anymore. His inability to string together logical thoughts; his complete dishonesty; his woefully poor education; and his fallacious arguments are incredibly predictable. I, and the overwhelming majority of Americans who voted for our honorable, intelligent, capable, honest, courageous, patriotic, and charismatic President are happy we did so and are proud to have a well-educated, articulate, man of integrity and character in the oval office for a change; a man who deserved and won the most prestigious honor on earth. And even though President Obama might not be the best President who ever lived, he's certainly better than abject failures like Ronald Reagan or the Bush boys, and especially better than any of the other choices we had on the ballot. America is far better off now, that it would have been if McCain had won. Having UG on the Cellar is like winning a bucket of used tampons. Sure, I own him, but do I really want to? |
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Wall of text, every word false. You are a wreck, Radar, and I have your measure. You cannot show any of what you said, so what you don't know you are doing is squealing like a piggie, eee eee.
It's like you're writing a parody of a rant. I don't need to have the last word, so long as I have the best. You, sir, are pwned. |
As usual. I stomp your stupid ass into a bloody stain on the pavement, and you look up with blood in your eyes and claim victory because you're too dumb to know you've been beaten. How sad and pathetic. Your post amounts to "nuh uh"
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Say, did anyone hear that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?
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:rolleyes: Yea, I heard it. He completely deserved it IMHO. :)
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Well I never... if you people are gonna stay on topic, I'm off in a 400 hp snit.:rolleyes:
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I dunno, Bruce. Is Radar in full-spherical-asshole-delusive mode really the example you want to follow? Radar couldn't stomp a bug with his raving, and can't support his argument or contention, and everyone but Radar knows as much. He's all mad at me because I pointed out a large error he committed -- how very unpardonable. Radar's midbrain always trumps his forebrain. Ego gratification is his one, sole, and only concern. Nothing else matters, not life, not integrity, not sanity, not intelligence, not family -- only the salving of that bloated tumor of ego he drags around with him, for no cause sane people could pinpoint. In overall effect, a two-digit IQ.
On reflection, the one word he got right on the evidence during the meltdown of post #167 was "abrasive." I do grate on people who refuse to use more than two digits of their IQ at any given juncture. (It's a sin I avoid committing, with success that comes with practice.) Give him his due, his two cents. |
UG...what you still cant support is your incessant rhetoric of Obama and Democratic socialism.
Ignorance of the difference between socialism and economic liberalism is no excuse. I would also suggest looking inward before casting "abrasive" stones. |
Redux, look -- I know from your writings that I'm wiser than you are, and my political choices reflect that extra margin of wisdom, values, and understanding. Events support my contentions, not your attempts at denial. History is on my side. It isn't on yours, as will be seen, even by you, over and over and over and over in the next three years. Each and every major policy shift enacted by the Obama Administration and the Democratic-controlled congress is socialistic, cloaked rather unpersuasively in fair-sounding words and guise in order to foist it upon an electorate that isn't yet paying enough attention to launch recall elections and impeachment proceedings. The Administration's actions are solid proof they are economic illiterates, which is something you have to be to stay a socialist.
You cannot convincingly deny any of this. National Review, Larry Elder, American Spectator and Russell Kirk support my view here, and I'll trust those careful scourers of data and events a good deal more than I trust your spoutings of Democratic talking points, designed to obscure both their fundamental social philosophy and the damage it will do the Republic. The near-term result of all this will be a Republican takeover of one or both houses of Congress and the encysting of the Administration as a lame duck. |
UG....you aren't that wise, you're just ideologically rigid.
An economic stimulus and/or jobs program is not socialism. A progressive income tax is not socialism. A health reform intitative that attempts to provides affordable (not free) and accessible health care to all citizens is not socialism. Comprehensive government environmental or financial services regulations are not socialism. Socialism is the bogeymean that you guys spout and spew when you cant defend your own ideology....not just you, the NR guys as well. |
And the National Review guys are smarter than you are, with keener vision. They are also not as easily deceived. You're a good little sheep for the collectivists, just the kind of voter they like best. I've an independent turn of mind, and independence means thinking like an adult and not accepting any manifestation of the State as a surrogate parent -- or ever thinking that I should. My father and mother were really quite adequate to the task, thanks ever so much -- while they were needed.
Buying up a sixth of the national economy is a massive governmental intervention in the economic flow: socialism, by any definition. Perhaps you do not study socialism very much? A highly progressive income tax is also a socialist feature, as a look at the tax code of any of the socialist welfare states can show -- they wouldn't miss that revenue stream. So it's shown me. Now what's your story? Don't you know anything about socialism? An inflationarily-expensive taxation-supported health care reform scheme will not cure America, but will sicken the dollar unto death. Socialist states all, without exception, offer rationed, half-effective government-issue health services. Quacks like a socialist duck, Redux, but you'd actually believe it's not? I don't think you know so much, my friend. Comprehensive government financial regulations can't help but be socialism. They are the very socialist type of policymaking, which has the deleterious effect of distorting the free market mechanisms that are the truest barometer of what a society actually values. Thus we defend our ideology, through knowing more than the average leftist. Our ideology is essentially expressed as "keep that which is worthwhile, resisting any temptation to discard it just to make room for something novel." Discarding the tried and true for something novel is a temptation for the young, but the magic really goes out of that with either parenthood or turning about 35. In some stubborn cases, both. Your inability to appreciate and internalize conservative values does not add up to "can't defend our own ideology." It is merely a defect of understanding on your part. |
UG.....your ignorance, intentional or not, of socialism is appalling but to be expected from an extremist libertarian.
You are confusing, again, intentionally or not, a short-term economic strategy to stabilize the economy, at the time of the worst recession in 50+ years, with a long-term policy of government taking over the private sector on behalf of the "workers" (not happening). Or to suggest that a health care proposal that keeps the overwhelming majority of Americans in health plans administered by the private sector is a form of socialism is absurd. Progressive taxation is not socialism by any definition....deficit spending is not socialism (hell, Reagan and Bush were both huge deficit spenders). And to suggest that government regulation is a form of socialism is even more mind-boggling.....right up there with your "reasonable gun control leads to genocide" argument. Added: UG....whatever happened to you "getting back to me" on that wacky gun control ---> genocide nonsense? Quote:
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