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TheMercenary 02-18-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 635789)
What are you trying to say here? The CBO numbers are narrower than what, and what are the CBO numbers you're talking about? Who have said what are basically bogus?

Bogus job creation numbers of 600,000 and 1.6 million vs 800,000 and 2.4 million. Did you not even read the posts?

Redux 02-18-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635793)
Let Google be your friend. Of course you could just look at the posts above.

So you cant find your own links from the MANY non-governmental groups?

You just pulled those groups out of your ass?

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635779)
I am aware of the groups that raised awareness and concern over the very small number of job reports in non-existing zip codes and attributed those clerical errors.

You are ignoring the glaring facts. And they did not attribute those errors to only "clerical errors".

Happy Monkey 02-18-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635796)
Bogus job creation numbers of 600,000 and 1.6 million vs 800,000 and 2.4 million. Did you not even read the posts?

Huh? Bogus job creation numbers of [November numbers] vs [recent numbers]? They're both CBO numbers, but from different times. Of course the more recent numbers will be bigger.

Redux 02-18-2010 08:00 PM

The number of grants to non-existing zip codes was very small..less than one percent, and yes, from what I recall, clerical error was citied as the likely problem.

But you still cant point me to the links to those MANY non-government groups you cited?

I looked through the thread and could not find such links.

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:00 PM

As both of you hold up the CBO to support your positions how could you ignore these statements? Do you have your heads in the sand?

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The CNN Fact Check Desk found that:

– Last November, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that between 600,000 and 1.6 million jobs were created through the third quarter, but said "it is impossible to determine how many of the reported jobs would have existed in the absence of the stimulus package."
– Also in November, the Government Accountability Office found "significant reporting and quality issues that need to be addressed."
– Last December, The White House Office of Management and Budget changed its guidance for stimulus recipients. Instead of asking recipients to report the amount of jobs created or saved with stimulus money, the Office asked recipients to report the amount of jobs "funded" by stimulus money.

Bottom Line: The White House-reported figures on jobs that were created under the stimulus plan are not specific enough to be deemed reliable.
These are not minor clerical errors....

Redux 02-18-2010 08:02 PM

But you repeatedly refered to MANY non-governmental groups.

I cant find your cites....help!

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635805)
The number of grants to non-existing zip codes was very small..less than one percent, and yes, from what I recall, clerical error was citied as the likely problem.

But you still cant point me to the links to those MANY non-government groups you cited?

I looked through the thread and could not find such links.

Start with stimulus watch for the number of jobs actually created, not the bogus Gov numbers.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:09 PM

Even the person who Obama appointed says they are incorrect.

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WASHINGTON — The government watchdog overseeing the federal stimulus program testified Thursday that he could not vouch for the Obama administration’s recent claims that the money had saved or created 640,000 jobs. He suggested that the administration should have treated the number with more skepticism.

The 640,000 figure, announced by the White House with some fanfare last month, came from reports filed by recipients of the stimulus money, many of which have been shown to be inaccurate or overstated since they were made public. But the watchdog, Earl E. Devaney, the chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, said that it was also possible that the figure understated how many jobs were affected. Up to 10 percent of the recipients had not filed the required reports showing how many jobs they had created or saved, he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/us...0stimulus.html

Redux 02-18-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635808)
Start with stimulus watch for the number of jobs actually created, not the bogus Gov numbers.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

Hey its great that stimulus watch now includes the jobs created for that Jennie-O Turkey grant.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/awards/...y-deli-breasts

Top of the list...move active today -- 286 jobs created....same as the data reported to the government. Bogus?

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635807)
But you repeatedly refered to MANY non-governmental groups.

I cant find your cites....help!

Here is another great one.

http://stimulus.org/

2009 Stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) by Various Agencies ; Responsible for a deficit of $862.00 billion.

Compare to the other deficit contributions.

Redux 02-18-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635811)
Here is another great one.

http://stimulus.org/

2009 Stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) by Various Agencies ; Responsible for a deficit of $862.00 billion.

Compare to the other deficit contributions.

Over 3 fiscal years and the biggest single piece - $288 billion...tax cuts (lost revenue = budget deficits)

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635815)
Over 3 fiscal years and the biggest single piece - $288 billion...tax cuts (lost revenue = budget deficits)

Ummm we are not talking about tax cuts. We are talking about the impact of Obama and this Congress spending habits which has exploded the deficit.

Redux 02-18-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635817)
Ummm we are not talking about tax cuts. We are talking about the impact of Obama and this Congress spending habits which has exploded the deficit.

You pointed to stimlus watch and the ARRA contributions to the deficit.

The biggest single piece of the $862 billion (over three fiscal years) ARRA contributions to the deficit are the ARRA tax cuts.....$288 billion in less revenue.

Deficits do not just result from spending more...but also from receiving less.

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635818)
You pointed to stimlus watch and the ARRA contributions to the deficit.

The biggest single piece of the $862 billion (over three fiscal years) ARRA contributions to the deficit are the ARRA tax cuts.....$288 billion in less revenue.

Deficits do not just result from spending more...but also from receiving less.

According to the very chart I linked to that made up a minor part of the deficit.

Maximum Amount: $66.13 billion
Deficit Impact: $17.76 billion

Redux 02-18-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635823)
According to the very chart I linked to that made up a minor part of the deficit.

Maximum Amount: $66.13 billion
Deficit Impact: $17.76 billion

What part of the fact that tax cuts are the biggest single component of ARRA dont you understand?

http://stimulus.org/financialrespons...investment-act doesnt even include FY 10

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:46 PM

CBO estimated that the total cost of the bill would total $862 billion. Not deficit neutral.

TheMercenary 02-18-2010 08:49 PM

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The federal budget deficit hit an all-time high for the month of December, and deficit spending for the first three months of the new budget year is also surpassing last year’s record pace.


The $91.85 billion budget deficit in December, a record for the month, marked a record 15 straight months of government red ink, the Treasury Department said Wednesday.


The monthly budget gap, up from a $51.75 billion deficit in December 2008, pushed the budget shortfall for the first quarter of fiscal 2010 to $388.51 billion. That compares to a $332.49 billion deficit for the same period a year ago.


The December deficit was in line with Wall Street and Congressional Budget Office estimates for a $92 billion gap.


Last year’s annual deficit surged to $1.42 trillion, more than three times the record of the previous year — an imbalance of $454.8 billion set in 2008.


The Obama administration is projecting that this year’s deficit will climb even higher, to $1.5 trillion, which would be 5.6 percent higher than the 2009 deficit. That figure will be revised when the president sends his new budget to Congress in early February.


President Barack Obama’s deficit-cutting plans are expected to be featured prominently in the budget he will submit to Congress in early February for the 2011 budget year that begins Oct. 1.


Through the first three months of the budget year, government revenues totaled $487.78 billion, a drop of 10.9 percent from the same period a year ago.


Outlays through December totaled $878.28 billion, a decline of 0.4 percent from the same period a year ago. That drop reflected smaller outlays for the government’s $700 billion rescue program compared with the same period a year ago, when the program was just getting started.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0fwjV71ft

classicman 06-06-2011 07:45 AM

Damn -
I thought I did this months ago....

HE GOT BIN LADEN!

TheMercenary 06-07-2011 08:06 AM

1 Attachment(s)
He got Bin Laden!

infinite monkey 06-07-2011 08:21 AM

1 Attachment(s)
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TheMercenary 06-07-2011 05:23 PM

:lol2: Not even close.

TheMercenary 06-07-2011 05:26 PM

Rut Row!

President Obama’s phony accounting on the auto industry bailout

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...efKH_blog.html

TheMercenary 06-18-2011 08:21 AM

Obama's "Millions of Shovel Ready Jobs" maybe not so shovel ready after all. Yuk, yuk, yuk. Really funny Mr. President, really funny. Not.

video:
http://nation.foxnews.com/president-...dy-we-expected

TheMercenary 06-24-2011 11:46 AM

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Given how economists still vigorously debate the economic effects of the New Deal, it’s not surprising that they would differ over the 2009 stimulus as well. So remember the old joke. You might ask for a definitive answer about the stimulus. The best you’ll get back is conflicting opinions.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/06/2...ts-of-stimulus

TheMercenary 07-06-2011 04:13 PM

More evidence of waste of taxpayer money in the supposed Stimulus boondoggle....

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The ARRA stimulus funds for broadband constitute “the largest Federal subsidies ever provided for broadband construction in the U.S.” An explicit goal of the program was to extend broadband access to homes currently without it.

Eisenach and Caves looked at three areas that received stimulus funds, in the form of loans and direct grants, to expand broadband access in Southwestern Montana, Northwestern Kansas, and Northeastern Minnesota. The median household income in these areas is between $40,100 and $50,900. The median home prices are between $94,400 and $189,000.

So how much did it cost per unserved household to get them broadband access? A whopping $349,234, or many multiples of household income, and significantly more than the cost of a home itself.

Sadly, it’s actually worse than that. Take the Montana project. The area is not in any meaningful sense unserved or even underserved. As many as seven broadband providers, including wireless, operate in the area. Only 1.5% of all households in the region had no wireline access. And if you include 3G wireless, there were only seven households in the Montana region that could be considered without access. So the cost of extending access in the Montana case comes to about $7 million for each additional household served.
http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/06/th...f-a-stimulus-s

Fair&Balanced 07-06-2011 06:11 PM

LOL.

The same silly simplistic math as the charge that every job created by ARRA funding cost the taxpayers $200,000+.

TheMercenary 07-07-2011 04:46 AM

I guess you get what you pay for, "Millions of Shovel Ready Jobs!" :lol:

infinite monkey 07-07-2011 07:19 AM

I bet there are shovel jobs cleaning up the bullshit in this thread. :lol:

Start scoopin'! ;)

Fair&Balanced 07-07-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 743806)
I guess you get what you pay for, "Millions of Shovel Ready Jobs!" :lol:

I understand that no Democratic program would be successful under your standards.

IMO, a program that contributing to creating 2.5 million jobs in the last two years is a good thing given how the economy was in free fall.

Not to mention the other components of the stimulus -- the $millions in tax cuts to small businesses to help keep them afloat and the $milions in extended unemployment insurance and COBRA coverage for those who lost their job in recession.

BTW, Rick Santorum claimed the stimulus was a failure because it only created 240 million jobs!

classicman 07-07-2011 11:41 AM

Merc, Can you explain how those numbers add up? I thought ... that most of the stimulus went for things besides job creation and the title stimulus was really not as accurate as some would lead us to believe.

When looking at stimuluswatch.org it certainly doesn't paint a great picture, but still those are some seemingly outrageous figures.


ETA - They updated the site to http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

chrisinhouston 07-09-2011 10:05 AM

We had a huge section of toll road built totally with the stimulus money, the link connects our area of NE Houston to Clearlake TX which is south of Houston half way to Galveston. Our Republican congressman, Ted Poe has been totally against any of the stimulus plan and has taken to the house floor to lambast it numerous times. He also showed up to have his picture taken at the ribbon cutting when the road was opened and spoke about how this new road would help his constituents and the communities. ;)

TheMercenary 07-12-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 743861)
Merc, Can you explain how those numbers add up? I thought ... that most of the stimulus went for things besides job creation and the title stimulus was really not as accurate as some would lead us to believe.

When looking at stimuluswatch.org it certainly doesn't paint a great picture, but still those are some seemingly outrageous figures.


ETA - They updated the site to http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

I am pretty sure they sort of go through the numbers in the link, I will have to double check it.

TheMercenary 07-12-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisinhouston (Post 744020)
We had a huge section of toll road built totally with the stimulus money, the link connects our area of NE Houston to Clearlake TX which is south of Houston half way to Galveston. Our Republican congressman, Ted Poe has been totally against any of the stimulus plan and has taken to the house floor to lambast it numerous times. He also showed up to have his picture taken at the ribbon cutting when the road was opened and spoke about how this new road would help his constituents and the communities. ;)

My only question is how many people were actually helped and at what cost? Or is it just another land "bridge to no where"?

Lamplighter 10-21-2011 05:38 PM

Post No 1, Item No 4 on Radar's list will be crossed off soon...

CBS News
October 21, 2011 12:23 PM

Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end

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President Obama announced Friday that the United States will withdraw
nearly all troops from Iraq by the end of the year,
effectively bringing the long and polarizing war in Iraq to an end.

"After nearly 9 years, America's war in Iraq will be over," said Mr. Obama.

He said the last American troops will depart the country by January 1
"with their heads held high, proud of their success, and knowing
that the American people stand united in our support for our troops."
<snip>

TheMercenary 10-21-2011 05:59 PM

Good job Obamy! You should be proud!

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The president is full of it when he talks about creating or saving jobs. During his State of the Union address Wednesday night, he said, “Now, because of the steps we took, there are about 2 million Americans working right now who would otherwise be unemployed. … Economists on the left and the right say this bill has helped save jobs and avert disaster. … That is why jobs must be our No. 1 focus in 2010, and that’s why I’m calling for a new jobs bill tonight.” This is pure fiction. Job losses under President Obama’s watch have increased steadily without remission.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ployment-rate/

TheMercenary 10-21-2011 06:03 PM

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There comes a time and a point in history which indelibly define a President. Oftentimes the event may not be of major import in the greater scheme of things but the management of it is of such prominence that the success or failure in the handling of the issue is permanently attached to the individual. Such a moment has happened to Barack Obama. His incompetence, inability to lead, prevarications, petulance and immaturity in the debt ceiling crisis have indelibly created an image of abject failure in the minds of a critical mass of people in the United States and around the globe. He will never be able to overcome the portrait that has been etched in too many minds.
Barack Obama's only interest in the debt ceiling debate was to raise the borrowing limit sufficiently to get by the next election, and as a cudgel to denigrate the Republicans. His concern was not for the American people and the impact of overwhelming national debt, nor an impending and inevitable credit downgrade. Rather, he was determined that raising the debt ceiling would not become an issue during the presidential campaign. Thus, spending cuts created out of whole cloth, combined with tax increases aimed at stoking the embers of class envy, were bandied about by his party in order to justify an increase in the debt ceiling of $2.4 Trillion.
The destruction wrought by the nearly $5.5 Trillion (more than a third of the total debt of a nation 222 years old) he will have added to the nation's balance sheet by the end of his term was immaterial, thus no detailed plan was forthcoming from the White House, and no lie or accusation aimed at the opposition was too absurd to tell. The only matter of importance was his re-election; the long-term health of the country be damned.
With this lasted chapter of Obama cynicism he has gone a bridge too far; and that bridge has collapsed behind him.
Continues:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/...residency.html

TheMercenary 10-21-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 765981)
Obama announces end of Iraq war, troops to return home by year end

What a load of horse shit.... he it trying to say this was in his agenda from his campaign promises, Bullocks! The only reason we are pulling out is because they Iraqi Government and our minions could not agree on a Status of Forces Agreement that would not make US Troops subject to Iraqi Law. Otherwise we would still have a few thousand quick reaction forces there for the forceable future. At least 10 years IHMO.

Lamplighter 10-21-2011 06:31 PM

The status of the Status of Forces Agreement does seem to be the reason for the decision,
but I doubt their would be much happiness in Merc'ville if the decision were to be the other way.

IIRC, it was the Iraq's decision to tell Bush to get US troops out of Iraq.

But it matters not a twit... getting almost all troups out is the event
and it's happening on Obama's watch, so he gets the credit this time.

classicman 10-21-2011 11:03 PM

How many of the paid mercenaries are going to stay?

ZenGum 10-21-2011 11:29 PM

Hush now, please not to ask the embarrassing question.

BigV 10-22-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766025)
How many of the paid mercenaries are going to stay?

None that won't have criminal immunity, that's for sure. Right now, that pencils out to... let's see... zero.

Bullitt 10-22-2011 12:53 AM

Many, many contractors.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...-iraq-eternal/

classicman 10-23-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 766025)
How many paid mercenaries are going to stay?

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 766044)
Right now, let's see... zero.

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 766045)
Many, many contractors.

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the State Department will command a hired army of about 5,500 security contractors, all to protect the largest U.S. diplomatic presence anywhere overseas.
... 10,000 U.S. State Department employees throughout Iraq — which, in case anyone has forgotten, is still a war zone.

It’s a situation with the potential for diplomatic disaster. And it’s being managed by an organization with no experience running the tight command structure that makes armies cohesive and effective.

You can also expect that there will be a shadow presence by the CIA, and possibly the Joint Special Operations Command, to hunt persons affiliated with al-Qaida. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has conspicuously stated that al-Qaida still has 1,000 Iraqi adherents, which would make it the largest al-Qaida affiliate in the world.

So far, there are three big security firms with lucrative contracts to protect U.S. diplomats. Triple Canopy, a longtime State guard company, has a contract worth up to $1.53 billion to keep diplos safe as they travel throughout Iraq. Global Strategies Group will guard the consulate at Basra for up to $401 million. SOC Incorporated will protect the mega-embassy in Baghdad for up to $974 million. State has yet to award contracts to guard consulates in multiethnic flashpoint cities Mosul and Kirkuk, as well as the outpost in placid Irbil.

“We can have the kind of protection our diplomats need,” Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough told reporters after Obama’s announcement. Whether the Iraqi people will have protection from the contractors that the State Department commands is a different question. And whatever you call their operations, the Obama administration hopes that you won’t be so rude as to call it “war.”

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 02:48 PM

Obama helps banks with new housing bailout.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1028554.html

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 03:15 PM

Another look at the proposed housing bailout...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1028554.html

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 08:03 PM

More Obamanation.....

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President Barack Obama’s new student loan policy will force working class Americans to pay the ballooning college costs of middle class Americans, and will also hinder needed reform of the bloated education sector, say critics.
Obama is “shifting the burden of paying for college to all of those Americans who did not graduate from college — the waitresses, construction workers, mechanics — and that should infuriate the taxpayers who worked hard to pay off their loans, who decided to live a modest lifestyle to pay off their loans,” said Lindsey Burke, an analyst at the Heritage Foundation.
Obama’s policy is also widening the class division between working-class Americans and those with college credentials, said Matthew Denhart, a researcher at the Center for College Affordability and Productivity in Washington, D.C.
Whatever the real costs, the new subsidy could benefit Obama’s standing among the disenchanted voters in the coveted 20-something demographic. Almost 70 percent of that group voted for him overwhelmingly in 2008.
The new loan policy “will save you money, it will help more young people figure out how to attend college … you will be more comfortable and confident to buy a house … [and] that will give our economy a boost when it desperately needs it,” Obama told a cheering crowd of students at the University of Colorado’s Denver campus.
But, he added, “young guys, I need you involved, I need you active … I need you to get the word out.”
Colorado is a swing state, and his polls show him well below the 50 percent approval mark. (RELATED: Ron Paul says Obama’s student debt plan is possibly illegal)
On Tuesday, Obama’s 2012 campaign announced a new program to win back youth voters. The “Greater Together,” program is intended “to engage young Americans between the ages of 18 and 29.” It was introduced by a video that asks younger people “to get involved once again in the political process and to help him finish what they all started together.”
The next day, Oct. 26, Obama announced his new student loan regulations, which build on a 2010 law that forced banks to cede student loan work to the federal government. The law forced banks to lay off thousands of employees, and it allows students to walk away from taxpayers’ loans after 15 years or 25 years.
Obama’s policy caps monthly payments at 10 percent of graduate’s income after taxes. Additionally, graduates will be able to walk away from taxpayers’ loans after 10 years if they work in “public service.”
“Public service” jobs are limited to government jobs, plus some favored non-profits focused on “public interest” law, early education, health or libraries. Students working in for-profit companies will be able to discard their loans only after 20 years, according to the new policy.
But the colleges fees have to be paid somehow, even when repayments are stopped, said Burke. Sooner or later, this “will ultimately result in tax increases — in putting this on the backs of three-quarters of Americans who did not graduate from college.”
Working-class people will end up paying for middle-class graduates’ basket-weaving and women’s studies degrees, she said.
Moreover, billions of dollars in government subsidies and advocacy have gradually converted college degrees into markers of middle-class status, even when those degrees earn less money than vocational credentials, such as plumbing licenses, Denhart said. Employers can’t assess the economic value of non-technical degrees, he explained, so those degrees only allow “people to signal to employers and peers that ‘I’m qualified enough to have completed a college education.’”
Administration officials say the new financial benefits are free.
Roughly 1.6 million Americans with federal loans “could see their payments go down by hundreds [of dollars] per month … [and] it won’t cost taxpayers a dime,” Obama told the cheering students.
But there must be a cost, countered Denhart. “We don’t know the exact cost … it takes time to work it out.”
The monthly benefit for graduate depends on their income and whether they’re married and have children. The greatest benefit will go to those with the highest debt and the lowest income, for example, people with post-graduate degrees in social studies.
The new policy also allows roughly 6 million graduates to merge commercial ‘Federal Family Education Loans’ loans with government loans, and lower their interest rate by roughly a half-percent. Roughly 36 million graduates have outstanding loans, including $400 billion in FFEL debt.
The full cost of these benefits likely won’t be known for a decade, when graduates will begin to walk away from taxpayers’ loans, Denhart said. Costs incurred more than 10 years ahead aren’t accounted for in government budget plans.
In his Colorado speech, Obama acknowledged the rising costs of college. Those costs have tripled since 1982, and graduates owe almost $1 trillion to government and commercial lenders, Denhart continued. But Obama offered no proposal to curbs costs, or improve quality in the education industry, which is an important part of the Democratic Party’s political base.
Federal loans and additional grants allow universities to charge high fees, Denhart said, or even to further raise their fees.
Obama’s policies, said Burke, are keeping costs too high, and effectively preserving the “education bubble” in the same fashion that government subsidies and unwise regulations created the real estate bubble during the 1990s and 2000s. The real estate bubble wrecked the economy as it burst in 2008 when mortgage debts became unmanageable, and the education bubble will eventually burst when graduates can’t pay their loans, she concluded.
Republicans legislators oppose the taxpayer-paid bailout. “This plan will not create a single job, strengthen our economy, or promote fiscal responsibility,” said a statement from John Kline, chairman of the House committee on education. Instead, the plan will “encourage more borrowing across the board… more debt for students, more debt for taxpayers, and more red ink on the government’s books,” said the statement.
Obama’s unwillingness to deal with rising costs and the education bubble, said Denhart, is “unsurprising, but at the same time, incredibly disappointing … [because] what we’re seeing is an industry that refuses to reform its basic operating structure.”
http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/26/cl...#ixzz1c0gGQOJx

TheMercenary 10-27-2011 10:32 PM

Anyone but Obama in 2012.....

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By Neal Boortz
On Friday, Barack Obama announced that the rest of our troops in Iraq will be returning home by the end of the year. During that speech, and again during his weekly Saturday address, Obama made the following assertion: "The drawdown in Iraq allowed us to refocus on Afghanistan and achieve major victories against all Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.”
Oh really? First of all, the only thing that Obama did to “get” Osama bin Laden was get the hell out of the way and let the brave men and women of our military do what they do best. And where did our military get the intelligence to track down Osama bin Laden? According to an article published in the NYTimes in May, the intelligence used to locate Osama bin Laden came from an al Qaeda operative who was captured by our military forces in Iraq in 2004. Yet, Obama says that it is his troop drawdown that led to the capture of Osama bin Laden.
What arrogance. But you really can’t blame the guy. How would you like to be the guy who has to catalogue the accomplishments of Barry Obama to be used in a reelection campaign?
Ouch! Barry, this one is going to hurt....

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-...ama-got-osama/

classicman 10-27-2011 10:49 PM

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First of all, the only thing that Obama did...
was more than Bush did in less than 1/2 the time. AND he has gotten more frikkin other fucks with his plan/direction than the previous prick did.
Quote:

How would you like to be the guy who has to catalogue the accomplishments of Barry Obama to be used in a reelection campaign?
Well there are a heck of a lot more than the R congress has ... or Newt, or Bachmann, or Perry, or Santorum, or Paul or or or...
What does it say that he is only trailing against a "generic republican" yet when you actually put one of this group up, Obama is leading? Let me help you - It says that pretty much EVERY R candidate SUCKS worse than a nobody. THAT'S pathetic.

classicman 10-27-2011 10:53 PM

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“The death of Osama Bin Laden marks the single greatest victory in the US-led campaign to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat Al Qaeda,” an official said.

The operation had been in the works for years. Since 9/11, the CIA gathered leads on those in bin Laden’s inner circle, including personal couriers.

In 2009, intelligence officials identified areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother operate – but they were still unable to pinpoint precisely where.

In August 2010 came the big break. Intelligence identified a compound that aroused their suspicion – eight times larger than other homes in the area, built in 2005, on a property valued at $1 million. But access to the compound was severely restricted, with elaborate security and 12 to 18 foot walls topped with barbed wire. Incongruently, the compound has no phone service or televisions. The main building had few windows and a seven foot wall for privacy. Residents burned their trash.
FWIW, the real intel apparently came in 2009 & 2010, well after shrub was gone.

BigV 10-28-2011 12:25 AM

Such bullshit, bullshit... When you fill your head with shit like this, it's no wonder what comes out.

MAKING STUFF UP!!!

I listen to the local Fox network radio station. I've lost count of the times the host, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Michael Medved, Rush Limbaugh, whomever, just Makes. Shit. Up.

The commercial WHORING for attention is pathetic, just like your boy up there saying President Obama "got" Osama bin Laden. For fucking fuck's sake. No one with any brains listens to that, no one with any intelligence gives such nonsense any thought. I was listening to Glen Beck this morning, before I'd donned my intelligence for the day, and during one of the short breaks between commercials, he told the story of the new "secret" rules by DHS that would require the presence of a DHS officer to be present when anyone wishes to open their safe deposit box in the event that the banks were taken over. Ostensibly, to watch for the removal of any gold, since that would be the only remaining truly valuable monetary medium. He spun this conspiracy theory and then segued neatly into the "Sponsor of the Day" which was GoldBuyerz4You.biz or some such.

See?

All they're doing is titillating you to stay tuned through the next commercial. It is their entire business model, and it's successful, though hardly nutritious for the mind.

You can fill your head with such shit if you wish. It's a free country. But I'm not obligated to treat your regurgitations as anything more than any other stinky mess.

Did you even read the articles "cited"? Unlikely. Here, I'll quote it for you from the NYT, the source Boortz claims undermines President Obama's statement:
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Among them was John Yoo, a former Justice Department official who wrote secret legal memorandums justifying brutal interrogations. “President Obama can take credit, rightfully, for the success today,” Mr. Yoo wrote Monday in National Review, “but he owes it to the tough decisions taken by the Bush administration.”

But a closer look at prisoner interrogations suggests that the harsh techniques played a small role at most in identifying Bin Laden’s trusted courier and exposing his hide-out.
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“The bottom line is this: If we had some kind of smoking-gun intelligence from waterboarding in 2003, we would have taken out Osama bin Laden in 2003,” said Tommy Vietor, spokesman for the National Security Council. “It took years of collection and analysis from many different sources to develop the case that enabled us to identify this compound, and reach a judgment that Bin Laden was likely to be living there.”
Your guy, Boortz? He's full of shit. When you listen to him or cite him, you get splashed with it too.

TheMercenary 10-28-2011 04:51 AM

:lol:

classicman 10-28-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 767252)
Such bullshit, bullshit... When you fill your head with shit like this, it's no wonder what comes out.

MAKING STUFF UP!!!

You talkin' to me? :eyebrow:

BigV 10-28-2011 10:19 AM

only when you make shit up.

My post was in response to mercy's dittohead repetition of Boortz's bullshit. Unless Boortz is your boy too, I'm not talkin to you.

Happy Monkey 10-28-2011 10:19 AM

He was referring to Boortz via TheMercenary.

BigV 10-28-2011 10:19 AM

This time.

classicman 10-28-2011 10:29 AM

orly? I'll dismember that comment.

TheMercenary 10-29-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 767347)
only when you make shit up.

My post was in response to mercy's dittohead repetition of Boortz's bullshit. Unless Boortz is your boy too, I'm not talkin to you.

Neil Boortz rocks! :thumb:

http://www.boortz.com/list/entertain...-archives/eGx/

TheMercenary 10-29-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 767252)
I listen to the local Fox network radio station. I've lost count of the times the host, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Michael Medved, Rush Limbaugh, whomever, just Makes. Shit. Up.

Can't help you, don't care, don't listen to them.

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The commercial WHORING for attention is pathetic, just like your boy up there saying President Obama "got" Osama bin Laden. For fucking fuck's sake. No one with any brains listens to that, no one with any intelligence gives such nonsense any thought.
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I was listening to Glen Beck this morning,
Well that was your first mistake, generally speaking I think he is an idiot.

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See?
Yea, I see you acting like a pompous prick again and jumping off the cliff like a God Damm lemming.

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All they're doing is titillating you to stay tuned through the next commercial. It is their entire business model, and it's successful, though hardly nutritious for the mind.
How does that work if I don't listen to them genius?

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It's a free country.
Wow, the first factual statement you have made is this silly rant. You sound like a child throwing a tantrum.

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Your guy, Boortz?
Boortz Rocks! :thumb:

Anyone but Obama in 2012.

Have a great day.

TheMercenary 11-01-2011 03:10 PM

On FOIA, Obama wants a license to lie

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It's not often that the liberal American Civil Liberties Union and conservative Judicial Watch agree on anything, but the Obama administration's lack of transparency has brought the two together. Obama's Justice Department has proposed a regulatory change that would weaken the Freedom of Information Act. Under the new rules, the government could falsely respond to those who file FOIA requests that a document does not exist if it pertains to an ongoing criminal investigation, concerns a terrorist organization, or a counterintelligence operation involving a foreign nation.
There are two problems with the Obama proposal to allow federal officials to affirmatively assert that a requested document doesn't exist when it does.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinio...ts-license-lie


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