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monster 01-06-2017 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 978758)
Sally Field

...oops, wrong thread. Sorry.

Mornington Crescent.

footfootfoot 01-06-2017 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 978753)
You followed my link! You must really like me!

;)

captainhook455 01-07-2017 04:53 PM

I am getting about one in ten pics and LJ is getting none.

tarheel

sexobon 01-07-2017 06:25 PM

Well, we understand that when you're getting so few pics for yourself that you don't want to give any to LJ.

Gravdigr 01-08-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainhook455 (Post 978862)
LJ is getting none.

What? But, but, but she just moved in...;)

lumberjim 01-08-2017 04:03 PM

I get some.

Gravdigr 01-10-2017 03:18 PM

***Don't know if it has to do with the conversion, but, the LiveLeak video embedding tags aren't working. The vid just doesn't show up, no place holder or nuttin'.

monster 01-10-2017 07:32 PM

I couldn't see my own dinner picture from my phone. and I had to circumvent all sorts of security breeches

glatt 01-10-2017 07:46 PM

i have a slightly older version of tapatalk - version 6.3.1(1577)
running on an iphone 5S with ios 10.2(14C92) on the ATT network.

I can see everything. Maybe because I'm a mod?

BigV 01-10-2017 08:40 PM

I can't see them all on the tablet. Maybe because I'm a rocker?

sexobon 01-11-2017 04:23 PM

The lock is gray and not green so I'm not buying anything here.

Gravdigr 01-13-2017 08:04 AM

Would any of this affect my Cellar log in?

First, today, I was asked for my username and password, I usually don't have to do this part, as Firefox remembers my username and password.

And then, I was told I was using an invalid username and/or password.

Twice.

And then I was allowed in.



ETA: The address bar shows the "https://" Cellar address.

Undertoad 01-13-2017 12:06 PM

That's really weird. There are two versions of the site, one with the www and one without. This is true of both http and https

The reason for that is I was retarded when I first set it up 17 years ago

(And never became unretarded)

It will often think you are not logged in to the one, if you are logged in to the other. This is cos it'll set cookies for the non-www and then you visit the www and it doesn't get those cookies.

sexobon 01-14-2017 11:27 AM

Can cellar.org be partitioned and firewalled from www. cellar.org such that a secure https ://cellar.org and an unsecure http ://www.cellar.org can both operate to maintain backward compatibility for those who can't adapt without issues? It wouldn't solve the problem of http links not making it to the https version; but, it would keep one version safer from hacking while making http links available for viewing in the other.

Please forgive my ignorance if the database can't be separated like that; or, duplicated and separated. It may not even be worth the effort depending on how long it will be before The Cellar moves to another platform.

captainhook455 01-14-2017 12:24 PM

I don't what you said, but I haven't been able to access a picture since the change which is a bummer. Luckily my other forums haven't done this. What do we have that we have to be secure about? We are 350 old farts that live all over the planet that think alike.

tarheel

sexobon 01-14-2017 04:06 PM

Click on this link to try the other version and see if you get pictures there: http://www.cellar.org/

Undertoad 01-14-2017 07:01 PM

I switched off mandating security about ten days ago

It is important if, for example, you use the same password everywhere and this is the one place left that doesn't have a secure connection on the page where you enter it.

captainhook455 01-14-2017 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 979468)
Click on this link to try the other version and see if you get pictures there: http://www.cellar.org/

This didn't go anywhere. I hit it but just goes back to the scroll. Maybe if I smack the phone against my forehead a couple times.

tarheel

sexobon 01-14-2017 08:53 PM

That might work if limey can send you the entire Cellar by thought transference.

sexobon 01-14-2017 08:57 PM

So UT, even though the lock symbol still appears next to the URL and when I click on it a box opens that says Your connection to the server is encrypted, that alone won't stop people from seeing images.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone experiencing problems actually tries changing their Cellar password.

Undertoad 01-15-2017 08:55 AM

It's voluntary to use the https link, you can continue to use the regular one at will.

There is nothing to stop people from seeing images except that Tapatalk is fucking broken as a platform. I am tired of addressing the issue so here is where we shall sit. If you can't see images today it is officially your problem and not mine. Perhaps you can unfollow and refollow or perhaps you can get a new phone.

Undertoad 01-15-2017 09:22 AM

I might add, you can always browse the site using a browser, as the founders of the World Wide Web intended. I recommend Chrome on all devices.

limey 01-15-2017 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 979492)
That might work if limey can send you the entire Cellar by thought transference.

:3eye:

BigV 01-15-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 979514)
I might add, you can always browse the site using a browser, as the founders of the World Wide Web intended. I recommend Chrome on all devices.

Chrome on my Samsung Galaxy Tab is having MAJOR difficulties. I haven't spent much time trying to sort it out yet, but it's definitely not smooth sailing.

As I work on it and learn I will pass on my observations.

monster 01-15-2017 04:22 PM

Chrome is what I use on my phone :/ and I try to use the http address and it changes it to https. I hate it and just won't bother trying to look at the cellar when I'm not home. problem solved :)

Gravdigr 01-15-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 979514)
I might add, you can always browse the site using a browser, as the founders of the World Wide Web intended. I recommend Chrome on all devices.

What he said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 978423)
I have had no issues (with my 'puter, Win7/FF34.0.5, nor my Nook, which runs some kind of Android and some kind of Chrome) during this period.

The Cellar...more better on a 'puter.

captainhook455 01-17-2017 07:40 AM

Damn Big V why do you live on the left coast? I was going to come over and let you fix my phone when you got yours sorted out.

tarheel

captainhook455 01-17-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 979547)
What he said.



The Cellar...more better on a 'puter.

I figured that is why I can't get most of the pictures. The ones from computers I can't get. Only the ones sent by phone.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...17d8bace62.jpg

tarheel

captainhook455 01-17-2017 07:46 AM

Thats what happens when one smokes cigarettes in Jimmies house.

tarheel

lumberjim 01-17-2017 08:43 AM

Oh damn. I took a sneaky selfie when you went to bed. Was trying to make it your wallpaper, but it zoomed too much. Guess I forgot to delete it.

captainhook455 01-17-2017 09:40 AM

It looks better in the zoom because I can't see your whole face.lol.

tarheel

lumberjim 01-17-2017 10:12 AM

yeah, not a very flattering angle.... least i dint have food in my teeth

Gravdigr 01-17-2017 02:16 PM

Nice 'n' red...very tomato-y.

Undertoad 01-17-2017 06:48 PM

ALRIGHTY THEN

I have just now figured out that the reason Tapatalk continues to fail is that the change I made to revert it WAS NOT ACCEPTED due to a problem with the Javascript they use to process their form.

stupid javascript form processing, such a terrible idea

Long and short of it is

I used a different browser to update the Cellar's profile at Tapatalk, and I think it has "taken" this time

So Tapatalk may start working again, and/or it may be a good idea to do one of those things where you stop following The Cellar and then re-follow it again.

~ woof ~

Undertoad 01-18-2017 07:00 PM

And so, Tapatalk users.

http://cellar.org/2017/uglytoad.jpg

Can you see me now?

Clodfobble 01-18-2017 08:05 PM

In all your glory!!!


Thanks, Toad. I know it was a gnarly problem. You are the man.

lumberjim 01-18-2017 08:07 PM

I see you.... But I still get band aids for most pictures
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6417180ce4.jpg

I did try unfollowing and re following

Undertoad 01-18-2017 08:17 PM

Because it's an attachment; I wonder if those were ever visible on Tapatalk

lumberjim 01-18-2017 08:39 PM

Never had this issue until you started this thread

lumberjim 01-18-2017 08:42 PM

I see this picture. What's the difference?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f887d9465b.jpg

Undertoad 01-18-2017 09:13 PM

It's not an attachment, it's an image linked to with an IMG BBcode. For IotD we try to do that, although the rules have gotten less strict.

Maybe I fucked up though and left https on attachments. Let me go check on that.

Undertoad 01-18-2017 09:21 PM

No the attachments are just attachments. I don't know why Tapatalk can't figure out attachments. They are the same attachments as ever.

Clodfobble 01-18-2017 09:31 PM

Does the HSTS header have anything to do with this? [/talking out of my ass]

lumberjim 01-18-2017 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 979863)
It's not an attachment, it's an image linked to with an IMG BBcode. For IotD we try to do that, although the rules have gotten less strict.

Maybe I fucked up though and left https on attachments. Let me go check on that.

Did you mean try NOT to do that?

So, I can't see hotlinked images?

Undertoad 01-18-2017 11:23 PM

No you can, just not Cellar attachment images.

We try to make IotD images use IMG links and NOT attachment images

The IMG links are to the cellar images directory

captainhook455 01-19-2017 07:13 AM

Links stinks. I be glad when this mess straightens up. Toad put your hat back on you are scaring my cats.

tarheel

glatt 01-19-2017 07:36 AM

Wtf? Why can my tapatalk see attachments?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5d026b4fb4.png

lumberjim 01-19-2017 09:07 AM

I'm going to uninstall and re install

lumberjim 01-19-2017 09:16 AM

No better. Cock

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Gravdigr 01-19-2017 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainhook455 (Post 979886)
Links stinks. I be glad when this mess straightens up. Toad put your hat back on you are scaring my cats.

tarheel

:lol2:

Groin pains I mean, growing pains.;)

I guess.

Gravdigr 01-25-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 979159)
***Don't know if it has to do with the conversion, but, the LiveLeak video embedding tags aren't working. The vid just doesn't show up, no place holder or nuttin'.

LiveLeak tags are not working.

Gravdigr 01-25-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 980498)
LiveLeak tags are not working.

Nevermind. I guess this problem is on my end.




ETA: My problem begins here.

Undertoad 01-25-2017 06:37 PM

Got it. Liveleak videos will never work for anyone browsing the site with https because Liveleak doesn't support https.

Undertoad 01-25-2017 06:46 PM

But wait, LiveLeak DOES support https. OK, maybe Liveleak has stopped supporting embedding!

Gravdigr 01-26-2017 12:37 PM

I think this prob is on my end. I'm not being allowed to see the LiveLeak vids.

I can see the vids with IE, so, I guess it's update time.

Ugh.

Dude111 01-30-2017 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
No well it's not enforced yet, but will be soon cos it's not truly secure until then. Still working out the first set of issues.

All your gonna do is cause all kinds of connection problems for some browsers,etc... for no bloody reason!

Nothing will be any more secure.... THEY CAN STILL SEE EVERYTHING....... (The elite)


Nothing on this site worth forcing HTTPS for......... If you wanna have HTTPS that fine but dont force it,its just bloody insane!!

BigV 01-30-2017 05:04 PM

Do you lock your doors?
Do you wear clothes?
Do you chew your food with your mouth closed?

Why?

Certainly it's not because those with power, force, etc could already get in. And everybody already knows what all that other stuff looks like.

Yet, you still follow those conventions. Why bother?

Dude111 01-31-2017 01:18 PM

I know a couple sites that went ONLY SSL but they made it so ALL BROWSERS can connect...... (cloudflare offers that to paying members (So no browser is left behind))

http://blog.cloudflare.com/sha-1-dep...er-left-behind

xoxoxoBruce 01-31-2017 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 980896)
Nothing will be any more secure.... THEY CAN STILL SEE EVERYTHING....... (The elite)

It's not a matter of seeing in, anyone can see anything here. It's a matter of someone coming in and anything from shitting on the rug to burning the house down.

Gravdigr 01-31-2017 03:26 PM

That rug really ties the room together, too.


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