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Happy Monkey 06-23-2009 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 576922)
Good job takin that out of context HM -
Taking what out of context? He said he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian, and it turned out the guy had a question from an Iranian. I ask again, where's the deceit?

What context makes him not have said that he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian?

classicman 06-23-2009 10:33 PM
IT WAS AN OBVIOUS SETUP!

Redux 06-23-2009 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 576922)
Good job takin that out of context HM -
LMAO.....now that's a classic pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw one.

Hell, not just one.

I could fnd 10-20 classic "cut and paste" of right wing editorials/blogs that take the facts out of context....and when pointed out, one is graced with the standard classic retort that refuses to acknowledge the playing loose with the facts by his "sources".

Aliantha 06-23-2009 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 576981)
IT WAS AN OBVIOUS SETUP!

It wasn't obvious to me.

Griff 06-24-2009 05:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 576981)
IT WAS AN OBVIOUS SETUP!
Yeah, they had a podium, chairs, microphone and everything!

Happy Monkey 06-24-2009 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 576981)
IT WAS AN OBVIOUS SETUP!
By "OBVIOUS", do you mean that Obama actually said that he knew the guy had a question from an Iranian, and invited him to ask it?

You said there was deceit. What was implied, and what was the reality, and what was the difference?

classicman 06-24-2009 07:42 AM
No difference. I guess its just me. Everything is well in the world.
You are all right and I am all wrong.

classicman 06-24-2009 09:29 AM
Deputy press secretary Bill Burton admitted calling Pitney prior to the press conference. and Pitney admitted he was called prior to the press conference to ask his Iran question.

That, my friends is what I call a set up. These conferences are supposed to be open so that the reporters can ask questions about whatever they want. They are not supposed to be infomercials. I also know this is not the first time an administration has done this.

You all disagree and thats fine - we all are, or should be, entitled to our opinions.

glatt 06-24-2009 09:31 AM
Who was not permitted to ask a question?

classicman 06-24-2009 09:36 AM
glatt, are you serious? really?

ok - just for the fun and pointless banter - I'll answer...

I don't know and neither do you.

The point is that both the administration and the reporter, AFTER THE FACT, admitted it was predetermined. Or as some would call it - a set up.
Its not that big a deal as I said - Its happened in previous administrations and will happen in future ones as well. Just note & admit that it happened.

glatt 06-24-2009 10:44 AM
You said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 577062)
These conferences are supposed to be open so that the reporters can ask questions about whatever they want.
Which implies that there were some reporters who weren't able to ask questions about whatever they wanted.

Granted, not everybody can get into the White House press corps, but those that were in it were all able to ask the questions they wanted to. Nobody there was shut out.

TheMercenary 06-24-2009 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 576842)
Ah...the Cellar and its folksy little closed community mannerisms.

The political forum? What a fucking joke.

The schtick?

Tweedledee and Tweedledum (Merc and Classic) hiding behind a shield of invisibility when they “contribute to a discussion” by, more often than not, posting purely partisan editorials that misrepresents the facts...and the not even having the balls to offer more than a one line snarky remark.

To challenge such pillars of the community by citing factual information? Beware and prepare for the inevitable “you're just an Obama mouthpiece” retort rather than addresses the facts.

Damn the facts, full speed ahead, Merc!!!!
:lol2:

classicman 06-24-2009 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 577083)
Nobody there was shut out.
Not true - He refused to take questions about Iraq or Afghanistan.

TheMercenary 06-24-2009 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt (Post 577083)
You said:


Which implies that there were some reporters who weren't able to ask questions about whatever they wanted.

Granted, not everybody can get into the White House press corps, but those that were in it were all able to ask the questions they wanted to. Nobody there was shut out.
It really is a pretty well known fact that these things, the WH Press Corps events are quite staged. They know who they are going to call on and in what order. It is a dance. Quite orderly. With specific steps. And depending who gets to come to the dance and who does not is well controlled.

glatt 06-24-2009 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 577086)
Not true - He refused to take questions about Iraq or Afghanistan.
Ah, my mistake.

Still, I see no problem.


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