Ain't that the truth. There is a DVD rental you can get called Jesus Camp. That touches on some of it. I have known a few people who HS, and my hat goes off to them. I don't have the quality to do it. Their kids were smarter than most of the kids their own grade. On the other hand, I have known some really religious kids that were HS for religious reasons and they were wacked out weird. To each his own.

Pop quiz:Now what famous orator coined this phrase?
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I agree, there are some home educators that bring down the bar. But I have also seen it work. Home-schooling shouldn't have anything to do with religion or the fanatics, which is why home-schooling can be difficult for people that aren't completely insane. Trying to develop a play-group without a fundamentalist and their kids showing up is probably difficult.
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Why? they do it every Sunday and Wed. It's called church. :D

I can see how this can be used as a tool of indoctrination to ensure loyalty to the state.

Look education is a education, the law should intervene if there is a problem. If parents are doing a good job and their children are pass the standerized test I fail to see the problem.

If the problem lays within parents not truly qualified to teach why isn't there a fast track for patent teachers to get a certification for being a home school teacher.

All public school students take a loyalty pledge to the state as their first activity, every morning.

"...and to the Republic for which it stands..."

I am pretty sure most of them have stopped. Ours has. Now they have become so PC so we don't hurt anyone's feelings. And there is zero room for common sense in the decision making.

No, they don't.

At ours they do. I don't know if they force you to do it, or if my kids are just conformists. Or both.

I understand that some schools that do can be pretty militant......with teachers having differing views on whether foreigners should/may join in or not :eek: thank goodnes they don't at ours.

they used to make us do it at my school in the states. i refused and got yelled at every single morning until my teacher finally just decided it wasnt worth the effort and gave up.

we used to have to say the Pledge of Allegiance, the Lord's Prayer, AND sing My Country Tis of Thee every morning. That was at a private school, though.

We not only said it all the way up through junior high, but in 8th grade I was the Seargeant-at-Arms on the student council, whose only actual job was to recite the pledge over the PA system every single morning for the students to follow along with.

You see, to an outsider, that seems a far cry from a land of free people... just sayin'....

I stopped saying it sometime in junior high. You are free to refuse to say it, just as you are free to refuse public schooling altogether...