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DanaC 03-31-2009 05:40 PM

Maybe so. But then I've been on quite the journey of self-discovery. I'm not sure I'd have so readily recognised my level of responsibility ten years ago. Back then I just felt helpless. I knew what I needed to do...and yet I didn't really know how to access those skills and apply it to my own life. How to establish positive, useful patterns. Saying shit is easy. Doing it and living it isn't easy, else we'd all be happy little fuckers with no problems. I'd blame anybody but myself back then. Why? because it;s hard enough being unhappy, without having to bear the responsibility for your unhappiness as well. It's a heavy weight if you dn;t feel like you'll ever get from under it. Easier to find external problems. Much easier.



[eta] These people have committed the cardinal sin. They appeared on a savvy media for savvy viewers and they were ordinary, flawed, selfish and human.

monster 03-31-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Juniper (Post 551477)
These people in the UK say they're eating "salads." Salads aren't really that healthy, especially when you dump on a bunch of dressing. It's also open to ambiguity. What kind of salads? Potato? Chicken? Pasta? "I eat salads" is the standard reply of the fat person under scrutiny; it's like a default answer. People who are thin because of a chosen lifestyle usually don't eat a lot of salads. They eat a variety of healthy foods.
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in the UK salad means a green salad. And usually not with much dressing compared to the US. Tuna or chicken with mayonnaise are not called "salads".

Salads are Americanizing a little over there -and it's probably changed more since I've been gone- but I still suspect Brits would not view grated cheese and croutons as essential salad components.

DanaC 03-31-2009 08:22 PM

These days I think most people say salads meaning bought salad boxes or a fill up from a salad bar. Lots of pasta and oil and dressings.

Shawnee123 03-31-2009 08:51 PM

I'm lucky: I hate salad dressing, and mayonaisse, and...

You have to get creative making salads if you're not going to dump a glob of goop on it.

Clodfobble 03-31-2009 10:49 PM

My new favorite thing to add to salads is a handful of ravioli, first boiled and then pan-seared in a little olive oil just until the outside is a little crunchy.

Tiki 03-31-2009 11:18 PM

I love a good salad; one of my favorites is shredded carrots with raisins and just a touch of vinegar! I also like bunches of greens with apples, almonds, dried cranberries, and my favorite dressing, made from lemon juice, basil, and avocado.

jinx 04-01-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 551774)
in the UK salad means a green salad. And usually not with much dressing compared to the US. Tuna or chicken with mayonnaise are not called "salads".

I was explaining this to the boy the other day because he asked if I could make that chicken/mayonnaise/grapes stuff... so we talked about the mayo "salads". Her was pretty wtf about it.
We eat a lot of salads. I always have the materials available, and the kids will often make themselves a quick salad if they don't like the veg of the meal.

Juniper 04-02-2009 10:54 AM

Daughter and I like salads (the veggie kind :)); husband and son won't touch 'em. But we don't eat enough of them to buy the makings very often; they just rot. If I can grow the stuff, maybe we'll eat more. I'm going out in an hour or so to do some more planting.

I like salads with a bunch of goop and goodies on them. I confess! I eat salads because I like the veggies, not because I'm trying to eat diet food. Not that I couldn't stand to eat a little more diet food. Or a little less non-diet food, that is. I like salads with cheese, and craisins, and chow mein noodles, and a big glob of French dressing! Honey mustard is good too. Hey, it's almost lunchtime. I need to go find me a good salad bar now.

Jinx, what's a "quick salad?" Is that like fast food? ;)

Speaking of health food (not) they're putting in a Chipotle down the road from me! Hooray! You know, people actually think that by getting their Chipotle stuff in a bowl without the wrapper they are eating *light*??? :D

jinx 04-02-2009 11:00 AM

The salad I made last night was killer... spring mix, chicken breast, black beans, avocado, shredded cheese and salsa instead of dressing.

A quick salad is chopped romaine with tomatoes, possibly carrot shredds, and dressing for the boy, the girl eats her salads dry most of the time.

Juniper 04-02-2009 11:03 AM

How about a taco salad from taco bell? I wonder how many calories are in that thing? :)

jinx 04-02-2009 11:06 AM

850 (430 with no shell). That's less than the 1K cal burritos at Chipotle...

Juniper 04-02-2009 11:21 AM

Wow, you're good. :)

Tiki 04-02-2009 12:19 PM

My metabolism has slowed way down in the last few years, especially since I work at home and don't really go anywhere. Luckily the upshot of that is that I just don't eat that much anymore. Mostly I eat fish, lean meat, and vegetables, but in the summer I eat a lot of fruit. I'm not thin, but I'm not getting any fatter either. :)

I've found that it's really easier to eat food cooked from scratch, anyway, as well as a lot cheaper and better for you. You just have to know a few basic ways of preparing things, and you're set.


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