Macro evolution has been categorically disproven, people. Just look here. Middle School level, First place.

QED. And Pwn3d.

That link leads to an online survey scheme

Ok the creationists TRY a come back and we get the first signs that this discussion is inevitably going nowhere.

Macro evolution vs Micro evolution.

Micro evolution is normally defined as the shift due to selective pressure of a gene or group of genes in a population of living organisms.

Macro evolution is normally defined as the formation of new species or taxinomic groups due to selective pressure.

As I explained earlier and as a few of us have been at pains to point out evolutionary theory doesn't gives us much clue on how the whole thing got started, however creationists keep banging on the point claiming it a weak point to the theory it is not a part of.

Demonstrating macro-evolution runs into difficulties as there is no accepted concept of a species at current, however it is accepted in scientific circles that extending proof of micro-evolution to explain the diversity of life is the most parsimonious solution.

More about observed Macro-evolution

Btw Perth why the link to the Polish radio site?

On edit sorry defined micro evolution twice!! duh

Evolution Theory religion? aheh. Ok. Bags I the role of High Priestess. I bet I could come up with a set of doctrines and dogma that'd make as much sense as Genesis. 'T isnt as if I would have to offer anything but the scantest nod in the direction of evidence in order for bunches of people to "buy" into it. "Buy"being the operative word. Have y'all noticed how many of the creationist sites are selling books/magazines/lesson profiles/etc/etc/etc ? I'd b interested in seeing the demographics on that....Which social grouping is more likely to buy into Creationist myth and which social groupiing is most likely to sell it to them?

Hunh what now? This is what I see when I click that link:

Tried it in IE and Firefox. Works for me on both counts.

Incidentally. Anyone who has an interest in this who hasnt read any Dawkins, his book Climbing Mount Improbable ( improbability? ) is excellent....I cannot claim to remember much of it, its quite heavy going. But really does put some interesting stuff on the table.

Perth I get sent to an advert for Surveys

Hahahah I love that tag that can just be seen where someone has proved their uncle is not a monkey hahahaha

I guess God doesn't want us to see the truth ;)

and instead wants me to listen to Polish radio???

guess he truely works in mysterious ways

Weird. Even so, there's the image, for all the world to see, :p

Try manually typing the URL, maybe. That site is a riot.

Dawkins is my hero.

He doesn't take no crap from any theist

I know aint he great? seriously....sexy too. I mean...I would.....*sparks a joint and pours a glass of wine* did I say that out loud?.....