If you're willing to take the risk of dying if you fall off the wagon (or use certain brands of aftershave or mouthwash), ask your MD about Antabuse.

Wolf. Tnxs for words about my garden. the above post was made kinda tongue in cheek ;) I tried the meds before. They just give you 14 days to dream up ingenious ways to really get on a good drunk :lol: After you stop taking them.

Once again, busterb, you've hit the nail on the freakin' head.

Good stuff, busterb. The economy of scale works against us if we can't stop until it's all gone. And the words in the image above ring true.

We would do the same thing over and over, hoping for a different outcome. Now that we've changed, we can have a different outcome.

Stolen from a Chuck Logan book. "Heard a counselor decribe alcoholism as a progressive diease, implying that just because you stopped putting alcohol in your mouth, it didn't mean the condition was cured. It continued to grow inside like an invisible vampire. Take a drink after ten years, and the vampire sitting on your chest was ten years older and stronger than the last time you saw him,"

Back from the horror that is our court system. Treatment in lieu of conviction. Lots of shit to go thru but if I do it all felony will be wiped off record. Yay.

My stupid computer has a virus so at library now...standing up and trying to type that way. Keyboard sticks, too.

Hang in there, busterb. and thanks to everyone for the good wishes.

I'm happy it turned out ok for you, Brianna. Let us know how the treatment program's going.

hey, good stuff Bri, glad to hear you won't have to leave us. Let us know if you need computer help as well.

yayy for Brianna. glad to hear that things are looking up, if still difficult.

Thanks, all!

jag--nasty spyware stuff and I downloaded spyware protection from AOL (remember, I am very computer illiterate-) but seems too little, too late. All these infernal pop ups keep me from signing on because my computer freezes...I don't get anywhere. Do I have to pay 200.00 for the Geek Squad to come out?

BTW--I start IOP soon at a place called

Congratulations Brianna.
Good luck on the recovery.
Glad, as well, you're not gonna leave.

After 15 years sober, my husband started drinking again. He thinks that he is 'in a different place and state of mind' in his life. He has been sober for our entire married life. It is strange to see him drink, something I am getting used to. So far he has been able to control it/himself. We are both very level headed laid back people and sometimes I question wether he really was an 'alcoholic' at all. I mostly think he was just young, unhappy and under pressure from his father.
(His father is very controlling) It does help him relax and he is able to have more fun with our children, not be so uptight. Hopefully everything will stay on the 'strait and narrow' as it were....time will tell.

Hope all goes well for you busterb and Brianna

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There's no Litmus Test for Alcoholism. I believe in this part of the disease concept: once one crosses the line into Alchoholism, there is no going back, biologically. The question is whether someone has crossed the line or not.

In the AA Big Book they say "If a man can drink like a Gentleman, hat's off to him".

Through AA meetings and such, I've come to realize how many of us had very controlling and dominating same-gender parents. In my case Step 4 was a long and rewarding process of dealing with resentments rather than numbing myself to them.

"Break a Leg."

I did AA for quite some time, however I was young and my inate arrogance didn't help.. I got sick of sitting around listening to people bitch about how much they wanted to drink.. the thing is I have given up pills/Marijuana/acid etc. the thing is.. alcohol.. damn that fucker! although I have a bet with a friend (we've known eachother for about 18 years) that june 1st to july 30th no alcohol.. tell you what.. it's going to suck.. I know I'm addicted no doubt about that.. but as I said I quit everything else (hell! i'm almost off of coffee! down to 3 cups a day! for me.. that's amazing)... anyway, the thing is that we all need somehting to fall back on.. when in need the problem comes when you do things for that fall back rather than the inverse (if that makes sense) anyway, sorry I have had tyhe insomnia somthing fearsome.. so my thoughts might not flow in a sensible sort of way, I apologize... anyway! Brianna good luck, busterb good luck as well.. just take it one minute at a time if need be, yeah It's hard but.. there are some things in life worth fighting for, and I promins once you get used to it, the whole world opens up in a very different way... hang on you'll see.