Huh. The House was gonna vote today on Boehner's proposed bill, but now they're not. My estimation is that the majority has not secured 218 votes, so no vote... yet. Is it not time to, you know, get some shit done yet? Gaaaaawwwd.

Because the biggest complaints about the left is that they want to give too many rights. Right to gay marriage, etc....

So far the extreme right is about taking away rights. The dumbest proposal I've heard from friends is making property ownership a requirement for voting. Then there is the attempt to redefine the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. Add to that various attempts to make it more difficult to register voters, etc.

I bet if the people started to build a guillotine in Washington some shit would get done.

A dickhead separated from it's body is still a dickhead.:mad:

I know, that's funny from a guy named Richard.:right:

True, but it's a less effective dickhead. Much, much less effective. And it's a message to the other dickheads. Sometimes all you need is one good visual.

I've been watching this 'debt ceiling' issue unfold from over the pond, and I think I probably can speak for a good proportion of my fellow Brits when I ask, wtf is your government doing?

How can this level of brinksmanship possibly still be going on, this close to crisis?

Speaking from this side of the pond, I can tell you that we have no fucking idea what the government is doing. They are scaring me.

Tea party Republicans are openly telling reporters that a government default is acceptable. Not a problem. They want more tax cuts to the rich. And more spending cuts to protect existing government welfare. This will only harm others who actually make jobs. And any organization dependent on cash flow.

Tax cuts for the past decade have only destroyed jobs. Undermined the economy. The extremist agenda of 2000 George Jr created our economic problems. Wacko extremist even said, “Reagan proved that deficits do not matter.” The political agenda even forgets that defined their philosophy.

George Jr wacko extremist spending made necessary massive government stimulus to avert a great depression. And still, these wacko extremists want to do more welfare for the rich. Refuse to admit the economic policies that created these debts. These debts are the bills, created four and eight years ago, now coming due. What is their solution? Keep doing what made the problem as if tax cuts and defaults are good. And now, default. They will probably blame the Chinese who hold over $1trillion in US government debt. Debt that was created by lies including Mission Accomplished. Debts we still have not yet paid for.

International observers have no idea how constant the wacko extremist rhetoric is on radio and Fox News. Only the least educated would listen. But that is also how Hitler came to power. Disparage the educated. Mock facts. Promote hate. Brainwashing by soundbytes.

Glen Beck associated a Labor Party summer outing in Norway with Nazi party youth camps. Those who find default acceptable also praise and respect Glen Beck. Do those outside America have any idea how acceptable that is to so many Fox News viewers? Tea party Republicans think a default is good or acceptable. Their political agenda (and the hate that empowers that political agenda) is more important.

Boehner is too liberal for the Tea Party. These people are that wacko extremist. That routinely manipulated by Limbaugh logic.

If a guillotine was built, the Tea Party would praise the accomplishment. Another example of hate that empowers extremists at the expense of moderates and rational thought.

I agree with tw. except his last two sentences. The guillotine remark was tongue-in-cheek, you humorless man. Try, won't you, to grow a sense of humor and you may live longer.


Not that I care.

Maybe you thought it was humor. Nearby Tea Party members are now considering it. When the guillotine begins operation, it will be your fault. But first they must finish creating a default. They want Obama (and America) to fail. Then! off with their heads.

:rolleyes:

I still don't know wtf they are doing. They are acting crazy, absurd.

Politics at play all the way, especially where a graduated debt ceiling level verses a fully raised debt ceiling is concerned. Then tax cuts, caps and the 2012 elections.

What better way to get what you want than by playing brinkmanship. Just hold the U.S. credit rating over the chasm by a thread and watch people start screaming. Sick fucks.


It scares me that social security benefits are in the general fund and not in a trust fund. It scares me that my parents are threatened by not getting the income they paid into, not to mention what I and others have paid into for years.

I have read the worse case scenario would be, if an agreement isn't reached the people who get paid are military personnel, interest holders and social security recipients.

I don't believe what I read anymore though so who knows.

hmmm... but it does reduce the quorum.

I tell you what is surprising from my perspective, is that your system doesn't seem to actually place a great deal of power into the hands of the President.

Well...not a black President.

:rolleyes: