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ZenGum 10-20-2011 07:46 PM

Thank you for dealing with that shit, Sarge. Very seriously, thank you.

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 08:40 PM

._________________. a line.

ZenGum 10-20-2011 08:47 PM

Uhhhh, is this in the right thread?

TheMercenary 10-20-2011 08:54 PM

I guess not... I was reading about angry birds and that is where I posted it, immediately... My bad.

Sundae 10-21-2011 11:59 AM

Grandad's still hanging on, but is getting morphine twice daily now.
The doctor told Mum it's likely that he has prostate cancer, but it is too late to do any tests and certainly too late for treatment.

So he's in limbo to an extent.
Dying, yes, but not really with us either.

We have agreed the hymns for his funeral between us.
My sister came over with a suggestion last night, but it's not well known enough to include. No point having something people are hesitant about singing.

After she left, Mum said, "I told her we were choosing hymns and she obviously felt left out and came rushing over!"
Bless her. It was obvious and quite right that Mum had asked her for suggestions too. How could I be upset about that? Ah well.

Nirvana 10-21-2011 06:18 PM

Isn't it nice that your Grandad has a caring family? :) He is so lucky you are all taking care of everything.

Someone cleaned out my bill paying bank account today. Not allot in it I only use this account to auto pay bills so when I got an over draft email I was shocked. After an hour on the phone [major annoying] all has been credited until the "investigation" concludes. [45 days] :eek2: I don't know how anyone would get that account card # unless one of my bill payees has been compromised. It's not used for anything else. :mad2:

DanaC 10-21-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 765932)
Grandad's still hanging on, but is getting morphine twice daily now.
The doctor told Mum it's likely that he has prostate cancer, but it is too late to do any tests and certainly too late for treatment.

So he's in limbo to an extent.
Dying, yes, but not really with us either.

We have agreed the hymns for his funeral between us.
My sister came over with a suggestion last night, but it's not well known enough to include. No point having something people are hesitant about singing.

After she left, Mum said, "I told her we were choosing hymns and she obviously felt left out and came rushing over!"
Bless her. It was obvious and quite right that Mum had asked her for suggestions too. How could I be upset about that? Ah well.

Ach. Hugs and warm thoughts, hon.

Nice that your mum was watchful of your feelings. At a time like this, that's kind of cool.

Aliantha 10-21-2011 07:15 PM

Why is it too late to do tests? They can always do tests to find out what's wrong. Maybe he just has kidney stones or something?

monster 10-21-2011 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 765998)
Why is it too late to do tests? They can always do tests to find out what's wrong. Maybe he just has kidney stones or something?

I believe he's only partially aware of his surroundings and very elderly. Too late in his life, not necessarily to late in the life of the cancer. Even if it was "just kidney stones", it sounds like he's too weak/far gone for any treatment to serve any purpose/be anything other than undignifying intrusions on his peace.

I could be wrong and if so, I apologise for my insensitivity.

Clodfobble 10-21-2011 08:05 PM

That's what I took it to mean as well. There was a point where they realized my elderly grandmother had some kind of cancer--but they said 1.) she wouldn't survive surgery or any kind of treatment for it, and 2.) it was a slow-growing kind and would take at least 2-3 years to kill her, and she was going to succumb to any number of other things long before that.

Aliantha 10-22-2011 02:12 AM

I was thinking of paliative relief really. Sometimes morphine is not the best drug or whatever. I just wondered.

Sundae 10-22-2011 02:28 AM

Monster and Clod were right - it's the fact that he's very frail now, rarely fully conscious and no longer even responds to Mum's voice. Occasionally she comes home and says he was aware or intelligible. Of course these are the times that make her cry more.

Re cancer, it's possible they've already tested his urine but are not willing to give him a biopsy?
I have to trust that the doctor who upped his morphine dose is prescribing in an informed way. I can't say any more than that, as it was filtered through Mum.

And no, I won't be offended by any questions or suggested answers.
This is the only place I get to discuss it openly, without having people wince.
Mum and I talk about it, but I have to tread a fine line between being objective so she feels she can depend on me, and being sensitive so she knows I care.

I'll have to start doing more for her.
At least I'm home next week. Even something as simple as making her a cup of tea when she gets back will share the love.

Big Sarge 10-22-2011 03:48 AM

he's led a long and full life. give him morphine for pain and let him go in peace. it's hard to do, but probably the only reasonable action.

SirFatty 10-22-2011 07:44 AM

Server issues
 
Exchange 2003 problems, new hardware does not arrive until Monday. Harddrives getting harder to source (Thailand flooding). IT? Why did I choose it as a profession?

Nirvana 10-22-2011 09:20 AM

Injury added to insult by my bank

Quote:

We have completed our investigation of this claim and determined that an error did occur. We have sent a letter by mail with the details of our investigation.
Please refer to the letter for the final amount credited.

Ok but you made me cut up my f$%^ing card for your error! :mad: Maybe I should charge them the $35 f6%^^ing dollars they were going to charge me for INSF. :mad2:


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