Someone should tell the teachers. Beest's boss's daughter got in trouble for refusing to say it. When she pointed out she wasn't American but Welsh, they asked her to recite the Welsh pledge of allegience instead. :rolleyes: :lol:

Was there a uniform? Nightstick? Scary thought.
So, did she clear her throat for a few seconds? ;)

There are some school nurses who think they can keep kids out of school if they aren't vaccinated, and like the pledge-happy teachers, they just need to be 'schooled'.
It's an imperfect world, screws fall out all the time...

I think it was high school that I stopped. But it seemed to be an unspoken thing with all the students. Everybody said it or at least mouthed the words in junior high, but we all just stood there with our mouths shut in high school. They did make us stand up during it. I remember one guy who refused to stand up one morning and got into a power struggle with the teacher over it. He got detention and stood up the next day.

We did the pledge and a random patriotic song through sixth grade. Past that, sometimes in assemblies.

I shut it down in about 10th grade. They didn't ever make anyone stand as far as I know. That was interesting because it was a very conservative public school which was big on rolling out protestant ministers for school assemblies. Maybe they didn't want us worshipping anything but Jesus? More likely I had teachers who just didn't care about it.

I have a question about the pledge of allegience.

It seems a lot of you stopped saying it for whatever reasons. I just wonder why? Do you not think it's a good thing?

At the time I would have pledged to the Constitution but pledging to flags is (was)base nationalism and good preparation for ending up in a body bag for no good reason.

Well, recently at least, there's been a recurring furor over the words "one nation, under God." But I think you would find that most students were/are eager to stop saying it out of apathy, plus the inherent uncoolness of standing and reciting anything.

I believe she may have grunted for a few Baas







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In Texas the schools still say the pledge.

Yeah, but you know what they say about Texas, don't you.... Queers and steers....

Hmph. Griff, you seem rather to have forgotten what clause follows the word "flag" in the pledge. I put it to you that you would not endure living in anything but a Republic, and like as not, this one. And having lived, all in all, I think you'd also die in this one too.

I've never stopped pledging, not really -- the occasional public meeting or NRA council. I suppose part of whether you'd keep it up would depend on just how special you think this Republic is. I've been out among a few other Republics -- and hey, a lot of them are nice places to visit. None of them had our dynamism. None of them was the premier modern republic.

I've sworn oaths to support and defend the Constitution in the course of that too, which oaths still carry weight with me. And I'd really have to research our nation's enemies carefully to find one that was specifically an enemy of our nation, but not an enemy of our Constitution. That'd be quite the nut to crack.

It is state dependent but actually they can keep them out of school if they are not vaccinated.