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joelnwil 07-08-2009 08:10 PM

The point about saying "affect change" is that it is an improper use of the word, although I was nice enough to give a possible interpretation. But the English language gets badly messed up on a regular basis, and she is hardly the only one who forgot what she may (or may not) have learned in the 8th grade. Maybe she took the day off to shoot something when they discussed that.

effect:

–verb (used with object)
10.to produce as an effect; bring about; accomplish; make happen: The new machines finally effected the transition to computerized accounting last spring.

affect:

–verb (used with object)
1.to act on; produce an effect or change in: Cold weather affected the crops.
2.to impress the mind or move the feelings of: The music affected him deeply.
3.(of pain, disease, etc.) to attack or lay hold of.

So to affect change is to act on change in some way, not bring it about. Unless you want 2 or 3.

It is just a matter of literacy.

Alluvial 07-08-2009 10:05 PM

With her accent, I couldn't tell whether she was saying "affect" or "effect".

Kitsune 07-09-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 580369)
If Palin is an example of their choices, the party will have to turn to Rush Limbaugh for leadership.

http://www.nojobsurvivor.com/njs/ima...augh_cigar.jpg

I thought Tobacco Penis was already the unofficial spokesman for the GOP. Or is his show back to the "entertainment only" label again?

Shawnee123 07-09-2009 10:44 AM

[conspiracytheory]The 'Pub Party wanted her to do everything she's done since she was first introduced as VP candidate. She lends credence to a long-held belief in the old boys club that women are too flighty to be politicians. They looked around and saw a bunch of strong, capable women up and coming into (gasp) high-level positions. Women whose agendas might differ from their old school views and who, if given a chance, could make a great dent in the antiquated cigar and brandy politics they've enjoyed since the days of yore. So, they pimped out a Sarah Palin. Sarah, because she is an old-fashioned down-home little girl, figured the guys knew best and complied. Her initial dive into politics was, surely, motivated by the need for attention and nice nails. McCain? He took one for the team.[/conspiracytheory]

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 580486)
[conspiracytheory] Sarah, because she is an old-fashioned down-home little girl, figured the guys knew best and complied. Her initial dive into politics was, surely, motivated by the need for attention and nice nails.[/conspiracytheory]

Not according to her record in AK. She never had the rep of being ms. little prissy. At least according to what I have read.

Shawnee123 07-09-2009 11:44 AM

That's why they chose her: she initially projected a strong person. Also, she loves "conservative family values" so she would act as psycho and flighty as she needed to in order to preserve the integrity of the party. Otherwise, it wouldn't have worked. That should have been inherent in my post, if one is reading for points.

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 02:00 PM

Eh... I think that whole family values thing is an overblown point. I hear it all the time. I think most people don't give it that much importance. The times you hear it most brought up is when some other Republickin steps on their dick in some metaphorical sense. Eh... whateva.

Shawnee123 07-09-2009 02:01 PM

[conspiracytheory]WHAT PART OF THESE TAGS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?[\conspiracytheory]

Oh, and bullshit. If they don't give it any importance they shouldn't always be hanging their damn hats on it, should they? All part of the show. I'll be in the lobby getting popcorn, let me know when someone decent comes on the screen. kthxbai

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 580535)
[conspiracytheory]WHAT PART OF THESE TAGS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?[\conspiracytheory]

Oh, and bullshit. If they don't give it any thought they shouldn't always be hanging their damn hats on it, should they? All part of the show. I'll be in the lobby getting popcorn, let me know when someone decent comes on the screen. kthxbai

That's my point. More people hang that hat for them than they do themselves. Like I said I could care less about what they say or do. The Demoncrats are no better IMHO.

Shawnee123 07-09-2009 02:07 PM

Oh, and bullshit.


That's all the bitch talks about.

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 02:13 PM

Yea, that is her. I am talking about the Republicking party as a whole, or people who consider themselves conservative. Those that are "Family Values" or Religious Right are not the majority but more like a vocal Minority.

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 02:16 PM

Why are people so afraid of Palin and what she says she stands for? She is never going to be elected to the White House.

Happy Monkey 07-09-2009 02:17 PM

Because they think she may actually get their party's nomination, and they'll never win the general election.

Flint 07-09-2009 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 580546)
Why are people so afraid of Palin and what she says she stands for?

Because this batshit crazy bitch was on a ticket that got 46% of the vote! That doesn't freak you out?

TheMercenary 07-09-2009 03:03 PM

I agree she can't be voted in. I even doubt a party nomination.


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