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Originally Posted by monster
(Post 730482)
Class sizes here are heading for thirty [snip]
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That's our class size here.
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I think in the old days in the UK, they would either have been written off as a little in the stupid side or put in a special ed class. But no, we didn't have teacher assistants either.
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We didn't have "special ed" but we did have quite a large school abutting my secondary (age 12-18) school called Pebblebrook. It was chock-full of children with every kind of disability, from Downs to hearing problems. Intensely physically disabled kids (who we thought were vegetables, before
A Brief History of Time) were coralled somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey
(Post 730485)
Yeah, I think the recognition and mainstreaming of certain conditions would require more help in the classroom.
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At my school we have about six "attached" TA's (inc yours truly) but also have a specialist department which some children are referred to. We have a resident Speech Therapist and a visiting Physical Therapist.
Each class has one TA - not including those employed to work with a specific statemented child. Except Reception, which has two. This is because 4-5 year olds need more attention than older children. A small example: their bags are checked every day for letters from home, feedback on reading records, water bottles (which are supposed to be put with lunchboxes because they inevitably leak) money for various school events etc etc... Children in older classes are expected to be responsible for this, but it takes 15 minutes to check it all for this age group. During which time at least three children will have an issue to be addressed. I know because I take up that role, while the other two TAs sort the bags.
There's also an outdoor area that needs to be supervising, a conservatory and the classroom. And first aid, the occasional toilet accident, activities like painting, daily individual reading and all the rest. It's a big ask.
When I was at school we only had one teacher per class of approx 32. But the nuns did come to help tutor those not keeping up. Nevertheless there were children who didn't benefit from the format. As Monster says, they were just accepted as being a bit slow.
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Originally Posted by monster
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The other thing is, whilst many of the teacher's assistants are great and an asset to the classroom, some are failed wannabe teachers who were failed for very good reason :(
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I don't know whether we're lucky or whether the school's interview process is stricter. TA jobs regularly attract 70+ applicants. I can't think of one here that I don't trust completely with a child. Having known some unsuitable teachers, I don't doubt there are unsuitable TAs though.
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey
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Well, I couldn't do it, either way. I love kidlings, but I don't have THAT kind of patience.
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You would have. If you worked with them every day and knew their personalities, you would know that 90% of the time they just need reassurance, 5% of the time is an immediate need/ crisis and 5% they are testing boundaries that need reinforcing. They are 110%. You'd love them.
Except when they really try your patience and you roll your eyes to yourself.
Which doesn't even compare to walking home planning on ways to kill your coworker because of the noise she makes when eating :)